General Chat

There are two separate issues, as I see it.

Should the son of the car thief be paid compensation following his father's death whilst carrying out a crime.

Is it any less of a crime because the police did not carry out correct procedure and disobeyed a direct order.

In my opinion compensation should not of been paid to the son of a criminal who died whilst carrying out a crime. His father made a choice. He did not consider his son whilst making that decision. He may of or may not of weighed up the risks but decided that it was a risk worth taking. The outcome was due to his decision nobody elses. If he had decided to be a law abiding citizen then he would of been alive to provide for his son. The responsibility lies here.

The police did not carry out correct procedure and disobeyed a direct order for which there should be disciplinary action. However, this is a effect of the recklessness of the car thief. If the crime had never been committed then the chase would not of happened and the thief would not of died. So again, no compensation should of been paid to the son of the criminal.

TootyFruity and Rose. Both those posts make a lot of sense to me. Yes, I agree it is that simple Rose.

I think we are letting our prejudice and emotion get in the way of the facts. I hate boy racers as much as anybody on Genes, I'm sure. I would string them all up by their toenails. And, no doubt, so would the Daily Mail.

But we have not got all the facts. When police are clocked by a driver, the driver usually pulls in and has a chat. And unless it is a very heinous crime, the penalties are usually very little. Community service, £60 and 3 points, a drugs warning. Something like that.

It appears this lad was in that bracket. But for some reason he took off. They think they can outrun and outsmart the police. There are clear rules now even for those who are highly trained in pursuit not to get too close and panic the getaway driver into making a serious error and hurting himself or others.

I think the original article in The Mail was arguing that we have a compensation culture. We have, and having once literally tapped someone in the rear (in my car :-)) - and being told by my insurance company it was a no damage accident - I was amazed to see she had claimed whiplash and was granted some compensation that affected my premium in future years.

The two examples (£13k for a toe) and £20k for Iestyn are very different examples in my view. Claiming for sore toes is compensation culture gone mad, imho. I would have thought £100,000 for Iestyn was insufficient, but possibly they took into account all the circumstances like "what would his life have been with a father like that?", to arrive at a paltry £20,000.

Nolls. I see that this thread has been sent to Genes as an example of good thread practice. Congratulations are in order, I think :-D :-D

huh?

huh?

huh ?

Eh?

Wot?

Haha John, sitting here chuckling away :-D

Pardon??? well I don't know what that's all about where did you get this info from .................now I do think that is funny!

Can't remember how to do a link

Message Board Use - 09.19

I am laughing my head off ...thought it was going to be removed ! :-0

ChristinaS has it been removed - I can't see anything about good thread practice.

I was puzzled when a poster said

"Nolls. I see that this thread has been sent to Genes as an example of good thread practice. Congratulations are in order, I think"

Errol
Someone posted this Thread on Tthe COMMUNITY thread run by Natasha.
Goodness knows why.. :-S :-S :-S :-S :-S

Here it is :-D

Message Board Use
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1324523?d=desc
.................
Gins Report 12 May 2013 21:19

Threads like this Natasha?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1324653
...............

Im confused lmao :-0 :-S

Mersey,Your not the only one. :-S :-S :-0

:-D Sue <3

Must be a reason. Perhaps I just assumed it was a positive reason :-)

I don't think so