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James Vincent Patterson New Zealand

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Mark

Mark Report 8 Feb 2012 22:35

Looking for relatives of James Vincent Patterson, born 1934 in Kent, England. James is my uncle. His parents are Walter J Patterson born 1891 Kent, England and Fanny Kate Patterson (nee Rogers) born 1903, Kent, England (my Grandparents). My uncle's siblings are Peggy 1923, Walter (Wally) c1924, passed away at a young age, Patricia 1925, Mary (my mum) 1928, Audrey 1930, Elsie 1932 and Vera (know as Phyllis) 1936.

After serving in Kuala Lumpur, James emigrated to New Zealand in 1958. He was working on building a ski slope in the North Island, I believe. In 1959, the bulldozer he was working on went out of control and killed him instantly, he was just 25. I have a letter sent by my Grandmother to my Mother informing her of James' death, in which she refers to "Auntie" will arrange the funeral and send his belonging back to England. The word Auntie, may well mean that I have relatives in New Zealand and would be grateful for any leads or information.

Thanks for reading.

Mark

Mark Report 15 Feb 2012 09:01

Just a little update! Traced my Uncle's death record in New Zealand, but by NZ privacy, cannot access the file until 2059! However, just wrote to the NZ agency to request access to the file, fingers crossed!

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Feb 2012 16:51

passenger transcript details

Name: James V PATTERSON
Date of departure: 4 February 1958
Port of departure: Glasgow
Passenger destination port: New Zealand
Passenger destination: New Zealand

Date of Birth: 4 February 1934
Age: 24 (calculated from DOB)
Marital status: Single
Sex: Male
Occupation: Fitters Mate
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 14



Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
CAPTAIN HOBSON
A Rowlands
New Zealand

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Feb 2012 16:55

Vine Cottage St Margaret's nr Dover Kent
He was a fitters mate

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 15 Feb 2012 18:42

Some useful NZ links on this site.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1246090

Mark

Mark Report 15 Feb 2012 20:00

Well, LadyKira, WOW - thank you sooooo much. Always thought my uncle sailed to NZ from Kuala Lumpur, but hey, that's the wonderful thing about searching your family history, always something you don't expect.

Vine Cottage was where my grandparents lived at the time of his passing in NZ and the address I have on the top of the letter sent by my grandmother to my mum informing her of James' tragic accident. Just looking forward to hearing from the NZ agency to see what else comes up.

Just a shame I can't have the same luck with tracing my father!

THANK YOU!!!!
Mark

Persephone

Persephone Report 16 Feb 2012 09:09

Surname PATTERSON
Forename(s) James Vincent
Age 25 Years
Gender Male
Date of Birth Not recorded
Date of Death Not recorded
Date of Burial 10/04/59
Cemetery Name Queenstown
Location Protestant, Block 6, Plot 32
Burial Type Burial
Occupation Bulldozer Driver
Place of Birth
Notes No gravestone


The cemetery records don't have his date of death but he died 7th April 1959..

Persephone

Persephone Report 16 Feb 2012 09:12

The ski slope he was working on could have been Coronet Peak near Queenstown... or at the Cardrona ski fields... looks like he was residing in Arrowtown at the time...

You should go down there sometime... one of the most beautiful flight paths .. flying into Queenstown. My OH can't bear to look out of the window.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:37

Is this your grandfather?

1911 census - household transcription

Person: PATTERSON, Walter James
Institution: 1st Battn Royal Sussex Regt, 1ST BATTALION ROYAL SUSSEX REGIMENT, RAWALPINDI, PUNJAB, INDIA
Military details: Private 1st Royal Sussex Regt
PATTERSON, Walter James Single 21 1890 Cook Kent Eastling Favesham

I am thinking if the letter says aunti to your mother then perhaps she is referring to to one of her own or her husband's siblings.

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:39

British Army Service Records 1760-1915

First name(s): Walter James

Last name: PATTERSON

Calculated year of birth: 1889

Parish of birth: Eastling

Town of birth: Faversham

County of birth: Kent

Age at attestation: 17 years 5 months

Attestation date: 4 December 1906

Attestation corps: ROYAL SUSSEX REGT

Attestation soldier number: 9876

Discharge rank:

Discharge corps: Royal Sussex Regiment - 35th & 107th Foot

Discharge soldier number:

The National Archives reference: WO96 / 637 / 328

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:49

If this is your guy his service record is on FMP
He was in the army less than 205 days
character good
and lists parents and siblings.
Walter father
Annie mother
Thomas
Elizabeth
Florence
Emily
Albert

address is Brook Farm. I***ham nr Rye

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:54

MarriageFinder™: Walter J Patterson married Fanny K Rogers [?]Name: PATTERSON, Walter JRegistration district: [?] Dover County: KentYear of registration: 1922Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun Spouse's last name RogersVolume no: [?] 2A Page no: [?] 2553

Name: ROGERS, Fanny KRegistration district: Dover County: Kent Year of registration: 1922 Quarter of registration: Apr-May-JunSpouse's last name: Patterson Volume no: 2A Page no: 2553

so married 1922

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 10:58

1901 Address: School Farm Cottage, Faversham Without
POTTERSON, Walter Head Married M 32 1869 Waggoner On Farm
Whitstable
Kent
POTTERSON, Annie Wife Married F 30 1871
Canterbury Kent
POTTERSON, Walter Son M 9 1892
Ospringe Kent
POTTERSON, Elizabeth Daughter F 8 1893
Canterbury Kent
POTTERSON, Thomas Son M 6 1895
Canterbury Kent
POTTERSON, George Son M 4 1897
Wingham Kent
POTTERSON, Florence Daughter F 2 1899
Chilham
Kent
POTTERSON, Emily Daughter F 0 (10 MOS) 1901
Goodnestone Kent

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 11:06

Looks like they moved around a fair bit.
Also more children than listed on the service record.
George may have died before enlistment.

1911 Address: Mill House Lynsted Sittingbourne
PATTERSON, Walter Head Married M 42 1869 Working Bailiff Farm Kent Blean
PATTERSON, Annie Wife Married
21 years F 40 1871 Kent Canterbury
PATTERSON, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 18 1893 Kent Canterbury
PATTERSON, Thomas Son Single M 17 1894 Laborer On Farm Kent Canterbury
PATTERSON, Flourace Daughter F 13 1898 School Kent Chilham
PATTERSON, Emily Daughter F 12 1899 School Kent Faversham
PATTERSON, Albert Son M 9 1902 Kent Wye
PATTERSON, Ernist Son M 7 1904 Kent Wye
PATTERSON, Percey Son M 5 1906 Kent Icklesham
PATTERSON, Arther Son M 4 1907 Kent Kennardington
PATTERSON, Nelley Daughter F 1 1910 Kent Lynsted

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 11:14

This could be your grandmother with parents and siblings.

1911 Address: Ringwould Dover
ROGERS, Albert Vincent Head Married M 47 1864 Road Labourer Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Sarah Elizabeth Wife Married
22 years F 38 1873 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Hilda Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1895 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Frederick Thomas Son M 10 1901 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Fanny Kate Daughter F 8 1903 Kent Ringwould
ROGERS, Rhoda Daughter F 6 1905 Kent East Langdon
ROGERS, Edward Son M 4 1907 Kent East Langdon

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 11:16

Your next task would be to trace each of your grandparents siblings to see if any of them went to New Zealand,

Mark

Mark Report 16 Feb 2012 13:51

Persephone/LadyKira/Buddah - A big THANK YOU to you both. The details of my uncle's death have always been a mystery! Although he passed away before i was born, can remember my mum telling me about him, she thought the world of him and was heartbroken that he was killed so far away. Always said to her that one day, I'd take her ti New Zealand to her brothers grave, unfortunately, that won't happen as she passed away in 2004. She always claimed that she could hear him calling out her name one night and when the news came through, it was the night, but daytime in NZ giving the time difference, he was killed by the bulldozer. Gives me an excuse to visit NZ one day!!

Thank you for all the info about my grandparents, Walter and Fanny Kate Patterson, have traced my grandmothers siblings, but have struggled with my grandfathers side, but maybe not now, thank you again. My grandfather was indeed in the Royal Sussex Regiment and served in India. My grandmother was indeed brought up in Ringwould and at one point, lived there when my mother and her siblings were a lot younger.

Just loved this website and everyone seems so keen to help, love that side of it too. Just a shame not so lucky tracing my own father.

Mark

LadyKira

LadyKira Report 16 Feb 2012 14:56

And your father is?
If he is still living do not post on here but pm me the details.

Mark

Mark Report 16 Feb 2012 21:32

WIll do, thank you

Persephone

Persephone Report 29 Feb 2012 00:21

Have also Pmd Mark..

I have been making enquiries re our Archives because not everyone can visit the offices.. the site says order and view at office..

I received this which is for the archives that are on open access.


"Thank you for your enquiry regarding ordering archival records.

You do not need a reader number to order from overseas. You just need to send an email to the relevant Archives New Zealand office including information about the record you require. We will tell you how much it will cost for us to photocopy the information and will send you an electronic link to make payment. Each probate costs $20.00 which includes photocopying. Other records are $25 per one half hour research time and also include photocopying up to 20 pages. "

I will also post this on the NZ tips board that Tony in Oz has on GR.

Persie