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Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2014 11:20

The grave monument application was from Ancestry - he was entitled as a veteran.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Jan 2014 11:23

I don't think there is much doubt that the info found is for the right person

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2014 11:25

This could be relevant:


A. C. Phelps
SSN:444-26-5935
Last Residence:
73554 Mangum, Greer, Oklahoma, USA
Born:5 Mar 1930
Died:15 Oct 1999

State (Year) SSN issued:

Oklahoma (Before 1951)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Jan 2014 11:31

Covering her tracks...................


Name: Isobel MORRISON
Date of departure: 24 November 1951
Port of departure: Liverpool
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA
Date of Birth: 1927 (calculated from age)
Age: 24
Marital status
:Sex: Female
Occupation: Snack Bar Asst
Passenger recorded on: Page 4 of 9

Ship: PARTHIAOfficial Number: 182417Master's name: J W CaunceSteamship Line: Cunard White Star LimitedWhere bound: New York, USASquare feet: Registered tonnage: 13362Passengers on voyage:

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Jan 2014 11:43

Could she have come back? Birth year is out!!


Name: Nora Isabel Phelps
Birth Date: 11 Nov 1924
Date of Registration: Mar 2006
Age at Death: 82
Registration District: N Tyneside
Inferred County: Tyne and Wear
Volume: -1
Page: -1
Register Number: A41C
District and Subdistrict: 054/1A
Entry Number: 141

Misty x

Edit....No not the correct one, have just found her marriage, sorry

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 26 Jan 2014 11:49

Maiden name - if known - will be on the death cert

This marriage may fit the death.......same area

Marriages Jun 1947 (>99%)

Knaggs Nora I Phelps Tynemouth 1b 1288
Phelps James B Knaggs Tynemouth 1b 1288

Louise

Louise Report 26 Jan 2014 11:51

Hi Mistycat,Nora Isabella Morrison was born on 11 Sept.1927

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Jan 2014 11:57

A C Phelps was a US veteran as well

U.S. Veterans Gravesites, ca.1775-2006 about A C Phelps
Name: A C Phelps
Service Info.: GY SGT US MARINE CORPS KOREA, VIETNAM
Birth Date: 5 Mar 1930
Death Date: 15 Oct 1999
Cemetery: Mangum City Cemtery
Cemetery Address: Mangum, OK 73554

For an image on Findagrave
http://miniurl.com/f0Ky

Beloved Father and Grandfather

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Jan 2014 12:02

The 'Home' person on a tree on Ancestry is his daughter. The tree is owned by bk_davis61.

If you don't have access to Ancestry, look for the same tree on Mundia.com
You have to register, but it is free. Then you can contact the tree owner and ask if there is a connection - don't say at this stage that you are also Nora's daughter as Nora may have left Mr Phelps before she was born.

Use these details as given on her tree

A.C Phelps
Birth 4 Mar 1932 in Durant, Bryan, Oklahoma, USA
Death 15 Oct 1999 in Mangum, Greer, Oklahoma, USA

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2014 12:03

I'm sorry, but that also give a link to his wife really sorry but she died in 1989, the gravestone confirming her dob.

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2014 12:06

It's very sad, but i think this confirms her death


N. I. Phelps
SSN:572-44-8563
Born:11 Sep 1927
Died:15 Sep 1989
State (Year) SSN issued:California (1951)

Nora and AC Phelps are buried together according to the cemetery records

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 26 Jan 2014 12:14

Oh bother didn't notice that.

Sorry for you loss Louise. :-(

It still might be worth contacting the tree owner to see if they are related.
Googling the details she shows for her husband brings up this. The tree does pose some questions which shouldn't be aired in public.

http://flannerbuchanan.tributes.com/show/Gerald-G.-Pittman-35782629

No mention of a wife.

Added- If the Mundia route doesn't get a reply, you could contact the funeral directors and see it they will pass on a message

Louise

Louise Report 26 Jan 2014 12:47

In honesty I thought she may have died,but would like to know of any half brothers or sisters.

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2014 12:53

I think the daughter D referred to was from a previous marriage for J C Phelps. There is another tree on ancestry, the tree owner is the youngest sister of JC, she lists 3 marriages for him - the third to Nora x - and she has 2 children for the couple, son and daughter.

Don't know if she is still active on ancestry but the name is Margie Covey, of Odessa Texas.

Added a 1942 obituary states Margie's husband is Bill Covey.

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Jan 2014 12:56

Hey fantastic work done Flip and Det, well done you two.

Although you did feel she would have died, must be good to be able to fill in some blanks Louise....

Mistyx

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Jan 2014 13:08

There is another tree on Ancestry for AC (Buddy) Phelps...spouse Nora (no info)

It has a son John Phelps but only gives place of his death, no dates.....

Mangum, Greer, Oklahoma, United States, same as AC and Nora.

Owner of tree....LarryAdams475787

Mistyx

Louise

Louise Report 26 Jan 2014 13:19

I can not thank you all enough,I have found the final piece to the jig-saw.You are all so kind and I am so grateful to you all.x

Flip

Flip Report 26 Jan 2014 13:50

Louise, it's very sad you didn't manage to find her, but at least you have some closure ........ although not much comfort.

I'm afraid Mistycat is probably right about your half brother, if you click this link, I'm pretty sure it's him - and Margie Covey also has a death for John, but not the details:

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=PH&GSpartial=1&GSbyrel=all&GSst=38&GScntry=4&GSsr=721&GRid=33841656&

Full name was John Michael Phelps

Mistycat

Mistycat Report 26 Jan 2014 13:59

How sad....

U.S., Social Security Death Index, 1935-Current about John M. Phelps
Name: John M. Phelps
SSN: 569-25-5704
Last Residence: 73554 Mangum, Greer, Oklahoma, USA
Born: 29 Jul 1958
Died: 17 Apr 1993
State (Year) SSN issued: California (1973)

Misty x

Louise

Louise Report 26 Jan 2014 14:34

Please could you tell me what site you got all this info from.Tried to get on Mundia but could not get on to it.