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anyone with really good eyesight???

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Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:08

Hi, I have just found Richard Roe on the 1851 census but the writing is terrible!!! Please please please could anyone tell me if there is a way of making the print any better? I have tried zooming in but it makes it worse.

thank you soooooo much


Jill Report 25 Feb 2010 16:12

do you know when or where he was born


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:17

Hi, Jill,

I think he was born c. 1793 in wigan and i have found out that he married a lady called mary. I have found him on other trees on here but there is very little information to go with it.
Richard and mary had 4 children, George b.1840, Job b.1844, Harriet b. 1847 and Catherine b.1847
I know that Job was born in Rattlesden Suffolk but dont know where the others were born.

thank you for your time Jane.


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:27

lol emma! the papers seem to be all black marks and every time i zoom in the black marks get blacker!!!!!


Madmeg Report 25 Feb 2010 16:30

This is the transcription on FMP as Ancestry is playing up:

ROWE, Richard Head Married M 58 1793 Pensioner Chelsea ? Day
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, Mary Ann Wife Married F 48 1803
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, J Son M 26 1825 Tile Maker
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, R Son Unmarried M 23 1828 Ag Lab
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, James Son Unmarried M 15 1836 Ag Lab Unemployed
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, G Son Unmarried M 11 1840 Ag Lab Unemployed
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, Joab Son M 9 1842 Ag Lab Unemployed
Suffolk VIEW
ROWE, Harriett Daughter F 4 1847
Suffolk VIEW


RG number:
HO107 Piece:
1794 Folio:
398 Page:

Registration District:
Stow Sub District:
Rattlesden EnumerationDistrict:
9B Ecclesiastical Parish:

Civil Parish:
Rattlesden Municipal Borough:
Poy Street Green, Rattlesden County:

All I can add from the original image is that after "Pensioner, Chelsea" it looks like @ 5 xxx Days.


Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 16:33


I can't find a Richard born in Wigan - only one born in Rattlesden - Is this the same one as he has more children than you mention?

Can you give the ref no RG.............. so I can find it to take a look please?

Dea x

P.S. - That's the one I also found Madmeg !!

Dea x


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:36

hi, madmeg,
wonder if there is any way of finding out what mary's maiden name was? I have been onto the LDS site and i think i found richard with a mary and her surname was Hartley but i dont know if this is my richard and mary or not. there were no children listed with them and I know my gt gt grandfather was Job Roe!
Any help would be much appreciated.
thank you, Jane


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:37

Hi, Dea how do i get the ref no??


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:38

hi, its me again, this could in fact be the family as I know my Job roe was born in rattlesden, so maybe i am wrong about where Richard was born.


Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 16:39

It's at the bottom of the first page as 'source information', before you click on image to view!

Says something like RG... folio... book... page...

Dea x


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 16:53

sorry everyone! I think i might have got carried away....the census is on here and i got it through search records and the LDS information is wrong, I think??? the richard on the LDS site was born in Burnley not wigan, but Im thinking that maybe the my info is wrong anyway..
so sorry to waste your time!!


Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 16:56

Hi Jane,

It is nice to have someone actually apologise for 'wasting our time', even though we haven't spent much time on it yet !!

Why don't you give us the 'facts' that you have and an idea of where you were trying to go and we can see what we can come up with?

Dea x


Madmeg Report 25 Feb 2010 16:59

Jane, have you found them in 1841 or later censuses? Where did you find the daughter Christine?

The birth cert of any of the children registered after 1 July 1837 will give the mother's maiden name.


Jill Report 25 Feb 2010 16:59

dont give up yet burnley and wigan are not that far apart
regards jill


Madmeg Report 25 Feb 2010 17:03

Hi Jane

We can all get a bit muddled at times. I'm in agreement with Dea - post the information you are certain about, cos I'm concerned you might be chasing the wrong family.


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:04

thanks !!
My gt gt gt grandad was richard Roe b. 1793? He married Mary? b.1801?
they had 4? children George b.1840, Job b.1844, harriet b. 1847, Catherine b.1859.
this information has been gathered off other members trees but i have checked my gt gt frandfathers info and it is correct. Job married Frances Pead in 1865. And i know Job was born in rattlesden suffolk.
I am trying to find information on Richard and I think that the information Madmeg has sent could be a very strong possibility.
thanks again, i get very excited when i think i have found another of my ancestors!!


Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 17:12

ROWE, Job Head M 27 1844 Suffolk
ROWE, Fanny Wife F 23 1848 Suffolk
ROWE, Annie J Daughter F 5 1866 Suffolk
ROWE, Ada H Daughter F 2 1869 Suffolk


Dea x


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:14

yes dea that is the family


Jane Report 25 Feb 2010 17:15

they also had a son Leonard b.1880 also in rattlesden.


Dea Report 25 Feb 2010 17:19

This is the family on 1841:

ROW, Richd M 45 1796 Suffolk ... Ag Lab. Army Pensioner
ROW, Mary Ann F 35 1806 Suffolk
ROW, Jonathan M 15 1826 Suffolk
ROW, Richard M 10 1831 Suffolk
ROW, James M 5 1836 Suffolk
ROW, George M 1 1840 Suffolk
ROW, Catherine F 10 1831 Suffolk

Clopton Green, Rattlesden

Dea x