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LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2009 10:14


Address: Back Of Rathbone Street, Liverpool
???, John Head M Germany VIEW
???, Ellen Wife F 25 1846 Ireland VIEW
???, ??? J Daughter F Lancashire VIEW
G???, Anthony Boarder M Germany

Cant rememember when he got married but put this as a possible until eliminated.

I am a bit shaky.

I was just leaving for work and I have had a fall.

Huge bruise.

Trying to calm down for a few minutes.


Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 10:20

ooo christine,, have a cup of tea.. sounds like you realy should rest.. hate falling... my search can wait :)

take care of yourself.

I am told john ecle married 1888 (got to check this) and his first children were hannah 1876 and ada. both died young i think! I am still trying to find out were mary ellen was born! i have a few on my list.. some liverpool.. cheshire,, just trying to trace her to make sure i have the right one!! I dont want to rely on other peoples research. I have found mary ellen with a dad george and william. still trying to figure it out!! My contact on here as her dad as george,,,, but i dont know!

take care of your self..ret up!
oh and call me liz x


Mary Report 11 Aug 2009 11:23

According to 1911 census Hannah 1876 was there at Boyd street and William henry 1888 who went into the army,and Lydia 1890 who died in 1913.
John the father must have died between 1911 and 1919 as on henry's army records mum Mary Ellen was a widow.

Henry's war no 313470.



Mary Report 11 Aug 2009 11:36

Had a look at 1901,I have been trying for hours ,thankyou Rose.
it is always them damn transcribers who get it wrong,if you look at the original it clearly says ECKHO,it would save us alot of time if they had took the time to read it correctly don't you think.
They have thrown me off course lots of times in the past.
So now elizabeth we have them married 1880 and 1881,1891,1901 and 1911 census,do you agree/

Have you thought about getting marriage certificate?


Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 12:38

wow,,, realy wish they could have put the name right!!1 what a goose chase. thanks mary, rose and christine!!

Yes I have the year they were married but I was told they were married in 1888?? This was from someone elses tree so have not varified it! but this looks wrong now as hannah was born in 1876?? so I will have to check the marriage bit out now. Definatly worth getting the certificate as will tell me loads! once i find the exact details i can order it?? not sure how too but another quest :)

mmm they must have been married before 1888.. no doubt,, right off to check!
thanks again liz


Mary Report 11 Aug 2009 13:08

Hannah was born 1888,as on 1911 census she is 24 so she must have been their 1st child as they were married 1888 A/M/J,so i would say the marriage with Johan and mary ellen is the right one.



Mary Report 11 Aug 2009 13:23

Sorry it was 1880 when they married not 1888 as i said before, Hannah's birth was registered dec 1886.

Sorry to confuse you,I'am getting a bit dizzy with this.

So to clarify Johan Eckeho married Mary ellen Barkley in Liverpool A/M/J Volume no 8b page 261.
This can be ordered off Ancestry if you have joined.



LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2009 14:35

I did not think that was the one but did not want to lose it. i am doing a FMP search of John c1842 surname blank born Germany

Do we know his occupation yet?

He may not be in the country of course


LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2009 14:43

Person: ECKER, John
Address: German Hospital, St John Hackney

ECKER, John Patient M 26 1845 Germany matchmaker

one of a long list of patients born in Germany

I do not think it is this one


LadyKira Report 11 Aug 2009 14:50

Too many variants and we do not know enough about when he came, who he came with or what he did.


Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 17:29

hi! great mary.. i think hanna was the first born thats what i got on my tree and yes 1880 is a good date :)

I have not joined annestry but will today as feel i need that bit extra. Its become a bit of an addiction :) The person who gave me the dads name of Johan Echeho.. gave me a name of peter echeho as his father and again born in germany. I have NOT verified this name and they said the date of birth could have been 1820?? a stab in the dark but this is what they had.

I have asked them to tell me if they have the marriage cerificate but not heard yet? I am hoping they have got it,,, otherwise i will order it.

Thanks again.. you aare all fab.. a bit of grandmother has now made contact with her cousion due to my research. They had had lost contact for abou 20years! if not longer!
again liz

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Aug 2009 18:16

John's death:

Deaths Mar 1916
Eckho John 73 W.Derby 8b 708


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Aug 2009 18:40

Ada was the first child but she was born Barkley in 1879.

Did you already have this?

1881 Household:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
John EKHO Head M Male 38 Hanover British Subject Labourer
Mary Ellen EKHO Wife M Female 27 Liverpool
Ada EKHO Daught U Female 2 Manchester

Source Information:
Dwelling 19 Vescox St
Census Place Liverpool, Lancashire, England
Family History Library Film 1341861
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3597 / 46
Page Number 28



Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 20:22

Hi anne, thanks for th information. I think i had it but parked it some days ago.. becouse again i was not sure about the name ect. now i am positive the name and the family are right. i will amend that ada was the first... it is interesting she was born in manchester!!! so another line opens.

I did not have his death date either, so thanks for that.. great.. i keep re-checking post too check if i had parked it as the name was not right!!! hahah it makes it frustrating at times but very interstign :)

again liz


Eileen Report 11 Aug 2009 20:42

Hi, Eveline Edna Robinette
Birth reg Watford JAS 1909 3a/852
That should be her


Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 20:48

ooooooooooo so ada was born out of wedlock? she was born 1879 and the couple married 1880??

oooo am i reading this right???


Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 20:58

thanks got evelines birth :) the fact the cessors miss the e off the end of robinette.. is a pain. My nan told me when her mother left she did go and live with a man but refused to marry. She moved to norwich with him and moved into a home. she died at 82 at the home.


Elizabeth Report 11 Aug 2009 21:21

just got my 14days free on anestry. is it worth uploading my file?? looks like a better site for searching ect? what do most people do? run both?? or use one for the tree and one for research. i already paid for gold membership on here??...


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Aug 2009 23:01

Who's Anne?

Search for eck*ho on Ancestry or FreeBMD, you get the following:

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page

Marriages Jun 1880
Eckeho Johan Liverpool 8b 261

Deaths Jun 1882
ECKHO Ada 3 W.Derby 8b 317

Births Dec 1882
Eckho Ellen Liverpool 8b 33

Births Sep 1884
Eckho Peter William Liverpool 8b 53

Births Dec 1886
Eckho Hannah Liverpool 8b 40

Births Dec 1888
ECKHO William Henry Liverpool 8b 35

Births Mar 1891
Eckho Lydia Liverpool 8b 15

Births Dec 1893
Eckho John Liverpool 8b 4

Births Jun 1898
Eckho Henry Liverpool 8b 34

Deaths Dec 1899
Eckho John 6 Liverpool 8b 29

Deaths Sep 1913
Eckho Lydia 22 W.Derby 8b 566

Deaths Mar 1916
Eckho John 73 W.Derby 8b 708


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 11 Aug 2009 23:02

Ada's birth:

Births Mar 1879
Barkley Ada Salford 8d 47