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Ooh Flip.....

Had a reply from the records office....they do searches at £32/hour.....so may take them up when I get paid lol!

That's interesting re Harry/Henry Bevan....Church Road is quite near to Constance Street...Constance Street on the left hand side of Caerleon Road (heading towards Caerleon) and Church Road on the right hand side.

Will have a play but, of course, Bevan (like Llewellyn) is a very common Welsh name ...derived from ab Evan meaning son of Evan :-)

Jude

After this thread was posted the other day

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1351388

Patricia, kindly went to Taunton to follow up her query on an address in Bridgwater and, whilst there, even more kindly, had a look for Charles and Eva.

This was her finding:

From autumn 1922 up until spring 1926 living at that address was John and Mary Randell, also a Thomas Squires. From Spring 1926 there were no records for no 45.

So Maria died on 09 May 1922, and Charles is on the ER at 36 Constance Street up to Autumn 1922. On 18 November 1922, he made his will in favour of Eva Bevan at a Bridgwater solicitors. The address is not given, just Charles David Llewellyn of Bridgwater

His address when he died in 1926 was 45 Wellington Road; her address when probate was granted was 45 Wellington Road.

So where were they between November 1922 and his death in May 1926?

Out of interest I have sent for the marriage certificate of Eva A Bevan (December 1927).

Jude

Can't believe you're still on this one Jude :-D

Must have cost you a fortune in certificates & wills, I'll look out for the marriagedetails when next on line - fingers crossed there's an address for her otherwise how will you know it's her?

That's what I am hoping Flip!

But you see...I'm a Scorpio as you know.....perfectionist :-)

Well it came and it cannot possibly be her. She is Eva Agnes bevan born 1901 in Bristol ...well documented. So until the 1921 census ...if it is ever released...I am stuck!

Jude

Oh well it was worth a punt, but I think probate records are usually pretty accurate so more likely she was just plain Eva Bevan.

Did the person checking the ER look a couple of years after 1926to see if she turned up?

Yes from 1926 there were no records for the address....so in 1911 he declares one child born and died whilst his wife declares only the living children in bury. So either she was lying or the dead child was his and Eva's. But where or who was Eva in 1911......Only the next census is going to help....

Jude

You can't be sure it was a child with Eva, it could have been Edith but she read the form correctly and only declared children of her current relationship. Then again he may have had another relationship in between!

Like you say, not much chance until the next census although she has proved elusive on the earlie ones.

Yes Flip...but she lied when she said she had been married for ten years in that relationship because she wasn't married (OK I know this was the norm if living in sin) to her partner and the ten years referred to the marriage with Charles! Liars the pair of them it seems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And I've been down the road of trying to find a child born and died......too many Llewellyns and Bevans!

and I keep looking at the earlier post

Western Mail, Cardiff - 16th March 1918

Eva Bevan, a middle aged woman, of Clytha Park Road, who said she was a native of Monmouth, was at Newport sent to prison for 2 months on charges of obtaining provisions by false pretences.

I reckon in 1918, middle aged would probably have covered from thirties on, which would be the right age for her to be with Charles...oh well a challenge for another day

Jude

You need to get back to the RO again and check out Clytha park road - Charles didn't appear with his mother on the ElR until 1920! See if you can find either of them -even if just to eliminate.

Yes was thinking of that this morning - I finish early on Friday for a week off...so may just call into the library then!

Jude

(nothing to report, but looking in!, hmm, wonders will we still be here on little ol' GR for next Census release, lol)

Chris :)

(saw below on google, not sure if any help, Burials)

http://bridgwaterparishrecords.co.uk/

http://www.bridgwatercemeteries.org.uk/

Been having a search on Clytha Park ,Newport - the only Bevan family

1911 Brenhilda ? Clytha Park Rd

Margaret Beran [Bevan] 66y -1845- widow- marr 32y 2children 2 alive Machen. Monmouthshire
Lilian Mary Beran [Bevan] 27y - 1884 - single Newport .Monmouthshire
Elsie Legge 22y - 1889 - single- serv. Newport.Monmouthshire

the same family !891 Newport

Isaac Bevan 48y --retired temperance hotelkeeper Undy Monmouthshire
Margaret Bevan 45y ----------- Machen Monmouthshire
Arthur C Bevan 10y --------------Newport
Mary E Bevan 7y ----------------- Newport

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not an Eva sorry to say -- a relation some where ??

have you considered the Eva Bevan who Died Okehampton Devon
Dec 1970 DoB given as 7th Nov 1884

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1911 in Llanelly Carmarthen

John Oscar Morgan Wade 23y Chemist Llanelly Carmarth
Grace Wade 33y sister Llanelly Carmarth
James Wade 25y brother Llanelly Carmarth
Ernest Wade 19y brother Llanelly Carmarth
Eva Bevon [Bevan] 25y serv. single Swansea

birth Eva Bevan Sep Q 1885 Swansea 11a 782

keep going

Mavis

Brenhilda, Bevan

http://www.newportpast.com/records/directories/johns1914/search.php?road=Oakfield%20Road


(Marriage of Son Arthur Bevan)

http://welshnewspapers.llgc.org.uk/en/page/view/3380209/ART245/brenhilda


Chris :)

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Newport/#Homes

(if same 'Brenhilda' above)

Clytha Park Road has a junction with Oakfield Road so the first two links are definitely the right Brenhilda. The third one is the on other side of the river so not the same one.

Worth a look-see....

Jude

on the 1911 census it said they had 13 rooms -- the daughter filled it in

Mavis

Yeah they are BIG houses! It's still there advertised as 7-bed semi

Jude

The Oakfield Road Bevans in 1901

Name: Margaret Bevan
Age in 1901: 54
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1847
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Machen, Monmouthshire, Wales
Civil Parish: Newport
Ecclesiastical parish: St Woollos
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Newport (Monmouthshire)
Sub-registration district: Newport
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 25
Piece: 4957
Folio: 95
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Bevan 54
Arthur E Bevan 20
Mary E Bevan 17

Three different addresses but all in large - and then affluent - areas of Newport. Many of theses houses are now split into flats

Jude

OK - have read the whole thread....just in case it hasn't been mentioned, one Eva Bevan born 1880 in Itton married in 1904...to a Mr Bevan lol! I have found them in the 1911 census in Mountain Ash.

But there is another Eva

Name: Eva Bevan
Registration Year: 1880
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Monmouth
Inferred County: Monmouthshire
Volume: 11a
Page: 35

I can find her in 1881 and 1891 and then she disappears....

Marriages Jun 1904 (>99%)
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Bevan Eva Clorinda Chepstow 11a 11
Bevan William Henry Chepstow 11a 11


Births Jun 1879 (>99%)
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Bevan Eva Clorinda Chepstow 11a 4


1911
William Henry Bevan Head Married Male 33 1878 Monmouthshire Chepstow Coal Miner Hewer
Eva Clarisda Bevan Wife Married Female 31 1880 Monmouthshire Chepstow
Cecil Bevan Son - Male 5 1906 Monmouthshire Chepstow
Address 2 New Houses Bush Road
Parish Llanwonno
County Glamorganshire

(do you mean above 1904?)

Chris :)


(Itton one)

Gwent Non-conformist Baptisms Transcription (Find My Past)

First name(s) EVA DEBORAH
Last name BEVAN
Birth year 1881
Baptism year 1881
Baptism date 30 November 1881
Mother's first name(s) Merab
Father's first name(s) Alfred James
Father's occupation Labourer
Birth county Monmouthshire
Birth country Wales
Place or faith KILGWRWG
County Monmouthshire
Notes Zion Chapel, Kilgwrwg

(has Brother Eli Obadiah)

Chris :)