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Yes managed to get in about an hour ago...but it's only a little more than you posted.

It throws my death for Thomas out though - I had 1959!

So if they were "reunited" he must have died before her!!

Jude

Back to Theo....I am minded to believe he died abroad given his travelling in the 1920's.

Chris has shown him to have been discharged after the Boer War in 1900...so where was he in 1901?

Jude

I still haven't found her in 1911..

Name: Eva Bevan
Relation: Daughter (Child)
Father's name: Thomas Bevan
Mother's name: Lydia Bevan
Gender: Female
Where born: Llanrothal, Monmouth, Wales
Civil Parish: Skenfrith
County/Island: Monmouthshire
Country: Wales
Street address: Cae Robin Farm
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Registration district: Monmouth
Sub registration district: Dingestow
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 5226
Folio: 103
Page Number: 7
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Bevan 38
Lydia Bevan 37
Thomas Bevan 12
Ellen Bevan 10
John Bevan 8
Emily Bevan 5
Emma Bevan 3
Elizabeth Bevan 2
Eva Bevan
Emma Powell 50

I have same family in 1891 and a possible - different dob - for 1901 as a servant (Skenfrith shown as place of birth)

But I can't find her in 1911....

Fresh eyes a while on? (All that nearer to - fingers crossed - 1921 census)

Jude

she could have married between 1901 and 1911?

She could have but she is Bevan in the 1926 will. And I still believe that the one child born one child died that Charles declares in 1911 is him and his new partner...i don't hold out much hope but ....I may try and follow up Flip's suggestion about the probate for her parents Tom and Lydia

Jude

Wow- this is a long thread- but a fantastic read!

No idea if this helps, but here goes:

Her Baptism (listed as Beavan- as on 1901 census also)

First name(s) Eva
Last name Beavan
Gender Female
Baptism year 1880
Baptism date 08 Aug 1880
Residence Llanrothall, Hereford, England
Place Llanrothal
County Herefordshire
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Father's last name Beavan
Mother's first name(s) Lydia
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But then this school record- perhaps not her as birth date is after baptism date above, but will include just in case the birth date proves useful (there was also an Elizabeth Mary Beavan b25/04/1879 of same address and father on the same page):

First name(s) Eva
Last name Beavan
Birth year 1880
Birth date 08 Nov 1880
Event year 1886
School name New Inn Board / Cross Ash School, Grosmont
Town Grosmont
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Parent name(s) Thomas
Address: Cae Robin
Book type Admissions
Archive reference CEA/47/4
Folio / page no. -
Archive Gwent Archives

I've seen quite a few cases where school admission DOB dont necessarily match actual DOB!

EDIT:- School record is correct Eva, the Address matches the 1881 census:

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Cae Robin Farm, Skenfrith, Monmouth, Monmouthshire, Wales

There are quite a few references in the Welsh papers Online to Charles David Llewellyn between 1907- 1909. He was jailed several time for drunken violent behaviour. I don't see any thing for after 1909 in the Welsh Papers. However, in 1915 a Charles David Llewellyn turns up in Weston-supermare. He was again convicted of drunken behaviour. The article states he was a visitor from Bath. I wondered if it was your man.

(oh heck, the Bevan one, lol)

(relates to family below)

Chris :)

01 August 1891 - Monmouthshire Beacon - Monmouth, Gwent, Wales

Newcastle
Affiliation - Charles Humphreys, labourer, Llanattock-Lingoed, who did not appear, was summoned by Ellen Bevan, Caerobin, Skenfrith, single woman, to show cause. - An order of 2s 6d per week was made upon the defendant, until the child attains the age of 11.


edits

Baptism
County Monmouthshire
Place Grosmont
Church name St Nicholas
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 112
Baptism date 29 May 1870
Birth date
Person forename Ellen
Person sex F
Person abode New Hill Farm
Father forename Thos
Father surname BEVAN
Father occupation Labr
Mother forename Lydia
Register note Farmer's son

http://www.freereg.org.uk/

Chris- yes- Eva's older sister- this was the child she had, before marrying Philip Jackson in 1893:

First name(s) MINNIE
Last name BEVAN
Birth year 1891
Baptism year 1891
Baptism day 16
Baptism month Jun
Place SKENFRITH
Mother's first name(s) Ellen
County Monmouthshire
Country Wales
Page 51
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Minnie in 1901:

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Farm, Marden, Hereford, Herefordshire, England
Philip Jackson Head Married Male 40 1861 Ordinary Agricultural Labourer Herefordshire
Ellen Jackson Wife Married Female 29 1872 - Grosmont, Herefordshire, England
Minnie Jackson Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Newton, Herefordshire, England
Lydia E Jackson Daughter - Female 7 1894 - Herefordshire, England
Agnes E Jackson Daughter - Female 1 1900 - Marden, Herefordshire, England
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By 1911 Ellen has moved back with parents, and husband is in Worcestershire:

Name: Phillip Jackson
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Abbeydoor, Herefordshire
Civil Parish: Orleton and Hanley William
County/Island: Worcestershire
Street address: High Bridge Cottage, Orleton On Teme, Worcester
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Waggoner
Registration district: Tenbury
Registration District Number: 375
ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Household schedule number: 37 Piece: 17590
Household Members:
Name Age
Phillip Jackson 47
Agnes Jackson 11
Lily Jackson 7
-------------------------------------------

Still not seeing Eva in 1911

Oh guys..wow!

I knew grand uncle Charles David (for all his distinguished name) was a "bad un"..and my great grandmother obviously knew this!

Eva in 1911....maybe a key! Who knows. Weston Super Mare to Bridgwater..mmm who knows. All I know was he was in Newport in 1911 and again after the war. Where he was during the war, who knows. But there are only two Charles David births anywhere between 1879 and 1920.....

I bet he was the drunk! My great gran was a canny soul methinks!

Jude

Think this confirms it! We all have at least one in the family!:

9th October 1908 Evening Express

NEWPORT MAN'S VIOLENCE
Charles David Llewellyn (29), of 32, Park- square, Newport, the son of a former well- known license, was before the Newport magistrates to-day for being drunk and disorderly in Commercial-street. He attempted to smash the windows of the Grosvenor Inn, where his sister lives, and behaved altogether in a wild and dangerous fashion. Mr. H. S. Lyne, who appeared for defendant's family, said there was no doubt that defendant was at times dangerous, and, apart from the effects of drink, it would be a good thing iif his mental condition were inquired into. His mother had already paid a good deal of money in flnes for him. As he had been nine times before the court the Bench decided to bind him over for three months 'in his own surety of £ 20, and one other surety of £20 go to prison for three months. Mr. Lyne said his family would not be found for him. The clerk: It is to be hoped, for his own sake, that no one will become surety for him. He will then go to prison.

http://newspapers.library.wales/

Austin Q - Brilliant! I think this thread had already proved he was a bad lot and this is the icing! I wondered if that was the reason why his wife left him for Mervyn and also if that was why they then left their families behind and moved to Bury.

And it would seem he and Eva were a well met match!

Jude

Thanks to Austin's pointer I have written all the articles up...it is entitled Charles David llewellyn - A Black Sheep!

22 July 1907 Evening Express
HIS LAST CHANCE
Charles David Llewellyn, a well known young man, was at Newport today fined 10 shillings and costs for being drunk in the High Street. As this was the third time within twelve months, and he was warned that another conviction in the year would make him eligible for being sent off to an inebriates home.

4 November 1907 Evening Express

CURE FOR DRUNKENESS
Newport Magistrates are adopting a new plan for dealing with habitual drunkards, especially those upon whom all the toher expedients, including detention in inebriates homes, have failed. A young man, named Charles David Llewellyn, of The Elms, Corporation Road, who was said to be the son of very respectable people, and who “doesn’t know when he has a good home” also made his fourth appearance for drunkenness within twelve months, and was therefore qualified to be regarded as an habitual drunkard. Superintendent Brooks said he was breaking his mother’s heart. It would be a good thing if he started to do some work. The Bench decided in his case that as this was his fifth appearance for drunkenness to call upon him to find sureties in ? to behave himself for three months and it was added, “if you commit yourself in that time you will go off”.

9th October 1908 Evening Express

NEWPORT MAN'S VIOLENCE
Charles David Llewellyn (29), of 32, Park- square, Newport, the son of a former well- known license, was before the Newport magistrates to-day for being drunk and disorderly in Commercial-street. He attempted to smash the windows of the Grosvenor Inn, where his sister lives, and behaved altogether in a wild and dangerous fashion. Mr. H. S. Lyne, who appeared for defendant's family, said there was no doubt that defendant was at times dangerous, and, apart from the effects of drink, it would be a good thing if his mental condition were inquired into. His mother had already paid a good deal of money in fines for him. As he had been nine times before the court the Bench decided to bind him over for three months 'in his own surety of £ 20, and one other surety of £20 go to prison for three months. Mr. Lyne said his family would not be found for him. The clerk: It is to be hoped, for his own sake, that no one will become surety for him. He will then go to prison.

31 July 1909 Evening Express
SIMPLY LARKING
A young man named Charles David Llewellyn, the son of respectable parents, was at at Newport today fined 10 shillings for being drunk on licensed premises, The Church House, Portland Street and 20 shillings for assaulting John Waite outside the Tredegar Arms Inn, Church Street, by pulling him off the ladder whilst he was cleaning the window. Defendant said he wasn’t so drunk as not to be entitled to go on licensed premises and as for the other offence he said he was simply larking and did not intend to do any harm to the youth.

28 August 1915 Western Daily Press

Charles David Llewellyn, a visitor to the town, was charged with damaging a plate-glass window, valued at £20, the property of Mr A. Lalonde. Prosecutor deposed that earlier in the morning at about 8:15, he saw the prisoner in Regent Street, behaving in an erratic manner; he was muttering something about a black hand and iron hand and he was going to do something with it. As he came near witness’s plate-glass window, the prisoner smashed his stick through the window subsequently putting his hand affectionately through the window over the broken part. He observed, “Yes, done it I know and I’ll do something else besides”. The window had cost £20. Accused was remanded for a week.

10 September 1915 Wells Journal

Charles David Llewellyn, a visitor from Bath, who was remanded from the previous Friday for Wilful damage to a pane of glass at the shop of Mr A. Lalonde, Regent Street, now admitted he had broken the glass, and said he did not know at the time what he was doing. He had been drinking heavily of late but he would refrain from intoxicants. Superintendent Richardson said the prisone had rather a bad record. The Clerk observed that in regard to the glass, Mr Lalonde was insured. He would, however, have to pay for the fixing etc and he had received an estimate for this amounting to £4 15 shillings. The Bench sentenced the prisoner to three months imprisonment and ordered him to pay the damage.

Jude

AustinQ

Freebmd gives birth as Q3 1880 (it's the only one in Monmouth) so I think the shcool record has the wrong month...but I do agree it is the correct Eva

But it gives me a good pointer!

Jude

Yes, I did notice that Jude- despite the DOB still think the school record is the Eva from the 1881 census you posted above.

I have to go out now but did wonder about this later marriage. I've just had a quick look but can't see anything obvious that points it to being the same Eva, but just putting it here so I remember to check later:

Marriage:
First name(s) EVA
Last name BEVAN
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1938
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ EVA BEVAN married
WILFRED R ROGERS
Spouse's last name ROGERS
District BATH
County Somerset
Volume 5C Page 1435

There are two Eva Rogers in 1939 register in Bath - neither with their husband unfortunately! But one born 1910 and one born 1915

There's an Eva E Sheppard in 1939 in Salisbury with DOB 08 July 1880 but I can't find the marriage of Eva E and Charles Sheppard

I too have to go out now! :-)

Jude

Blimey- it's a bit of a needle in a haystack!

Not the Eva E Shepherd- she was surname Weeks and married Charles C Shepherd in 1902

I'm wondering if anyone lives local to a Central Library in Somerset and could look up the Electoral register for 45 Wellington Road, Bridgwater for you. I wonder if it would give any clues?

We sort of did that on page 8 Austin! :-)

After this thread was posted the other day

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1351388

Patricia, kindly went to Taunton to follow up her query on an address in Bridgwater and, whilst there, even more kindly, had a look for Charles and Eva.

This was her finding:

From autumn 1922 up until spring 1926 living at that address was John and Mary Randell, also a Thomas Squires. From Spring 1926 there were no records for no 45.

So Maria died on 09 May 1922, and Charles is on the ER at 36 Constance Street up to Autumn 1922. On 18 November 1922, he made his will in favour of Eva Bevan at a Bridgwater solicitors. The address is not given, just Charles David Llewellyn of Bridgwater

His address when he died in 1926 was 45 Wellington Road; her address when probate was granted was 45 Wellington Road.

So where were they between November 1922 and his death in May 1926?

Jude

Oh- so you did! I spent the morning going through it yesterday as well- but that was yesterday :)

I did see that Maria was at 48 Constance Street in 1914- listed in the Newport Street Directory:

48 Constance Street, Llewellyn, Mrs Matia

http://www.newportpast.com/records/index.php

Oh that's new! In 1911 she was at number 50 and my grandparents were at number 54.

Jude