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Hurst/Hirst in Rishton lancashire

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Shirley

Shirley Report 2 Mar 2018 17:03

Anyone able to find Ann hurst born in 1813-1819 on the 1841 census in either osealdtwistle or rishton. Possibly connection to the surname fish . Married Thomas Duxbury in 1844 . Had daughter betsy hurst in 1843 out of wedlock. Betsy married James towning in Burnley in 1867. Can anyone find betsy or Ann as hurst on any census in 1841. Betsy maybe in 1871 would say where she was born i guess :-) :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Mar 2018 19:15

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1370870

You have been given the birth info for Betty on the above thread

Ann says in 1851 that she was born in Oswaldtwistle (as per your other thread) but, as has been stated already, the parish records for Oswaldtwistle for that time are NOT on LancsOPC site


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Mar 2018 08:17

You won't find Betsy on the 1841 census as she wasn't born till 1843!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 4 Mar 2018 08:21

They married in Blackburn
The cert should name her father ,if known


First name(s) THOMAS
Last name DUXBURY
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1844
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ THOMAS DUXBURY married one of these people
Sarah Chambers, Nanny Wilkinson, Anne Hurst
District Blackburn
District number -
County Lancashire
Country England
Volume 21
Volume as transcribed 21
Page number 53
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce
Collections from Great Britain, England
© brightsolid online publishing ltd

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 4 Mar 2018 08:45

http://www.oswaldtwistle.bathgatehall.co.uk/oldoswaldtwistle.htm

(came across above, useful with Census (from google search) been looking round, but these came up, and wondered if Hurst was related somewhere...

Chris :)

(below address where Thomas is 1861)

1851
3 The Cross, Oswaldtwistle
Name Relationship Status Age Occupation Birthplace #Ref Family
Ann HURST Head w 41 Housekeeper Haslingden
Hargreaves HURST Son 12 Drawer Coal Pit Oswaldtwistle
Henry HURST Son 9 Drawer Coal Pit Haslingden
James HURST Son 5 Oswaldtwistle
William HURST Son 3 Oswaldtwistle
Mary Ann HURST Daur 1 Oswaldtwistle
James HARGREAVES Visitor u 31 Steam Loom Weaver Blackburn


Birth
HURST, HARGREAVES -
GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 21 Page 72

Birth
HURST, MARY ANN -
GRO Reference: 1849 D Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 21 Page 69


Marriage: 1 Jan 1853 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
James Hargreaves - (X), full age, Labourer, Bachelor, Oswaldtwistle
Ann Hurst - (X), full age, Widow, Oswaldtwistle
Groom's Father: Samuel Hargreaves, Weaver
Bride's Father: William Yates, Weaver
Witness: Michael Norris; James Catlow
Married by Banns by: Joseph Birchall
Register: Marriages 1847 - 1859, Page 135, Entry 269
Source: LDS Film 1470823


(notes below pair, with Thomas 1851)

Marriage: 5 Aug 1850 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England
Thomas Oldham - (X), full, Collier, Bachelor, Blackburn
Isabella Yates - (X), full, Spinster, Blackburn
Groom's Father: Henry Oldham, Weaver
Bride's Father: John Yates, Collier
Witness: Thomas Livesey; John Pilkington
Married by Banns by: W.J.Monk
Register: Marriages 1850 - 1851, Page 29, Entry 58
Source: LDS Film 1278818


1851
29 Barron's Style, Oswaldtwistle
Name Relationship Status Age Occupation Birthplace #Ref Family
Thomas OLDHAM head m 25 Coal Miner Oswaldtwistle
Isabella OLDHAM wife m 24 Oswaldtwistle
Henry ISHERWOOD lodger 1 Oswaldtwistle
Ella ISHERWOOD lodger u 25 Power Loom Weaver (calico) Oswaldtwistle
Thomas DUXBURY lodger m 31 Out Door labourer Rishton
Ann DUXBURY lodger m 30 Oswaldtwistle
Betty DUXBURY lodger 7 Oswaldtwistle
Richard DUXBURY lodger 5 Oswaldtwistle
Mark DUXBURY lodger 3 Oswaldtwistle


(Isabella with Parents, John/Isabella below 1841 Daisey Green, Whalley, Blackburn, Lancashire)


(am presuming this is Hargreaves)

Marriage: 23 Apr 1859 St James, Church Kirk, Lancashire, England
Hargreaves Hurst - (X), 20 years, Miner, Bachelor, Oswaldtwistle
Elizabeth Slater - Full, Spinster, Oswaldtwistle
Bride's Father: William Slater, Weaver
Witness: James Parker; John Morgan
Married by Banns by: Joseph Birchall
Register: Marriages 1859 - 1868, Page 6, Entry 12
Source: LDS Film 1470823


(and probably the witness at their Marriage, reference Daisy Green)

Marriage: 7 Nov 1844 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
John Beckett - (X), 20, Plasterer, bachelor, New Field
Nancy Duckworth - (X), full, Weaver, spinster, Daisy Green
Groom's Father: Christopher Beckett, Plasterer
Bride's Father: Thomas Duckworth, Collier
Witness: Henry Houdlin, (X); Betty ?, (X)
Married by licence by: Charles K. Henson
Register: Marriages 1840 - 1865, Page 18, Entry 35
Source: LDS Film 1470816

http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html


(needs more time, working on it!)

Shirley

Shirley Report 5 Mar 2018 12:53

Thanks Chris,. Appreciate it . Hopefully one day the mystery will be solved :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2018 16:01

From a tree on Ancestry, which seems quite well-researched, although I don't understand the reference to a half-sister, in view of the parents' years of death

Thomas Duxbury

Birth: Abt 1819 - Lancashire, England
Death: 1890 - Oswaldtwistle
Marriage: 18 Aug 1844 - Burnley, Lancashire, England
Spouse: Ann Hurst
F: John Duxbury 1793-1870

M: Ann Nancy Manley 1789-1861


Birth of Brother Ridehalgh Duxbury(1821–)
1821 • Colne, Lancashire, England
1821

2

Birth of Sister Anne DUXBURY(1826–1894)
1826 • Calne, Lancashire, England
1826

7

Birth of Half-Sister Sarah Duxbury(1829–)
abt 1829 • Colne, Lancashire, England
1829

10

Birth of Sister Ellen Duxbury(1834–)
1834 • Colne, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2018 16:37

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
16, New York Street, Castleton, Rochdale, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Ridyhalgh Duxbury Head Married Male 59 1822 Colne, Lancashire, England Engineers Smith Transcription
Sally Duxbury Wife Married Female 65 1816 Lancashire, England Shirt Maker Transcription
John Guest Son In Law Married Male 26 1855 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Iron Turner Transcription
Sarah E Guest Daughter Married Female 25 1856 Openshaw, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Transcription
John Guest Grand Son Single Male 2 1879 Rochdale, Lancashire, England

Shirley

Shirley Report 5 Mar 2018 17:04

Yes,..know of that tree but definately not my john or Thomas Duxbury ..think i proved a long time ago that that Thomas moved to rochdale ...it was thought for a while by a few other distant relatives that this was the correct link but checking this it us definately a different family . Shame really as it would have solved the mystery .
Thanks
Shirley :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2018 17:37

Birth of Son Richard Duxbury(1845–)
abt 1845 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1845

26

Birth of Son Mark Duxbury(1848–)
abt 1848 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1848

29

Birth of Daughter Nancy Duxbury(1851–)
abt 1851 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1851

32

Birth of Son Thomas Duxbury(1853–)
abt 1853 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1853

34

Birth of Daughter Ann Duxbury(1856–)
abt 1856 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1856

37

Birth of Son George Duxbury(1857–)
abt 1857 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1857

38

Birth of Son James Duxbury(1859–)
abt 1859 • Oswaldtwisle, Lancashire, England
1859

40

Birth of Daughter Jane Duxbury(1861–1892)
16/4/1861 • Church Parish, Lancashire, England
1861

42

VIEW
Residence
1861 • Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England
Age: 42; Relation: Head

1 Source
1861

42

Death of Mother Ann Nancy Manley(1789–1861)
AFT 1861

Shirley

Shirley Report 5 Mar 2018 20:34

Yes . They have mixed up the two families . Definately not mine ..it was proved by finding the Colne Thomas in rochdale i think ...i can't remember exactly as it's so long ago but they have mixed up the john and Thomas from Colne with mine . :-S

Shirley

Shirley Report 6 Mar 2018 14:38

I am trying a new line. I think i have found a marriage for nancy Duxbury (anne) , one of the children of Thomas Duxbury and Anne Hurst. I found what i think is her marriage at holy trinity church in Burnley in 1878 to James Taylor. Please can anyone discover them on the census in Burnley. Perhaps the 1881 and 1891. I'm trying to find deaths but it's harder due to the names being common. Think they had child named James Henry Taylor in 1880 and Ellen and Taylor in 1878 . Think also Rosetta in 1882 but she died in 1888. Think Lawrence Taylor also married a Mary Duxbury and had a Rosetta at a similar time period in Burnley too so they may have been connected.also think perhaps had Henry in 1884 and 1886 had James Taylor . Possibly john William in 1888 but that could either have been Lawrence and Mary or James Taylor and Anne Duxbury. ? :-)

Shirley

Shirley Report 6 Mar 2018 14:50

Just found that Lawrence Taylor married Mary walmsley not Mary Duxbury..but still think they both, James and Lawrence , both had a child Rosetta which may make them related ...just guessing though as both families were living in the same places r.g Wood top and oak hill street . Coincidentally Thomas later married Agnes fairbairn and they lived on oakhill street. And a,Margaret fairbairn and James townend were witnesses at James Taylor and Anne (nancy) duxburys wedding in 1878 . :-S

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2018 14:56

Baptism: 30 Oct 1881 St John the Baptist, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Rosetta Taylor - [Child] of Laurence Taylor & Mary
Born: 21 Sep 1881
Abode: 10 Oak Hill Street
Occupation: Collier
Baptised by: W. J. Gerratt
Register: Baptisms 1879 - 1887, Page 14, Entry 108
Source: Original Parish Register


Burial: 16 Feb 1888 Burnley Cemetery, Burnley, Lancashire, England
Rosetta Taylor -
Age: 5yrs
Abode: Wood Top
Grave: 15168
Notes: Buried in a Public Grave
Gender: F
Register: Burials 1885 - 1890, Page 151, Entry 32882
Source: Original Registers Book 5

The burial and baptism are not the same child

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2018 14:58

This is the Rosetta whose baptism I posted above

Marriage: 10 Dec 1904 St Matthew the Apostle, Habergham Eaves, Lancashire, England
Robert Washington - 23, Farm Labourer, Bachelor, 3 Rose Hill Cottage
Rosetta Taylor - 23, Weaver, Spinster, 14 Back Lane
Groom's Father: Matthew Washington, Deceased
Bride's Father: Lawrence Taylor, Miner
Witness: George Washington; Evahannah Taylor
Married by Banns by: S. Edmund Clarke
Register: Marriages 1895 - 1906, Page 214, Entry 428
Source: Original Parish Register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2018 15:00

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
10, Oak Hill Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Lawrence Taylor Head Married Male 33 1848 Blackburn, Lancashire, England Coal Miner Transcription
Mary Taylor Wife Married Female 30 1851 Church, Lancashire, England Cotton Weaver Transcription
Sarah Ann Taylor Daughter Single Female 3 1878 Burnley, Lancashire, England - Transcription
Catherine Taylor Daughter Single Female 1 1880 Burnley, Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2018 15:00

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Clay Street, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Birth place Occupation
Lawrence Taylor Head Married Male 45 1846 Lancashire, England Coal Miner Transcription
Mary Taylor Wife Married Female 40 1851 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Sarah A Taylor Daughter Single Female 13 1878 Lancashire, England Cotton Reacher In Transcription
Rosetta Taylor Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Lancashire, England - Transcription
John Thos Taylor Son Single Male 7 1884 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Eve Anna Taylor Daughter Single Female 5 1886 Lancashire, England - Transcription
James H Taylor Son Single Male 3 1888 Lancashire, England - Transcription
Ethel Taylor Daughter Single Female 0 1891 Lancashire, England -

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2018 15:03

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
Wood Top, Habergham Eaves, Burnley, Lancashire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Lawrence Taylor Head - Male 25 1846 - Lancashire, England Transcription
Mary Taylor Wife - Female 20 1851 - Lancashire, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2018 15:11

Lawrence Taylor's father was named Thomas

James Taylor's father was named James - and the marriage to Ann Duxbury took place in 1872

Shirley

Shirley Report 6 Mar 2018 15:19

Thanks Erica. Think Rosetta Taylor burial is the child of James Taylor and Anne Duxbury then . Found birth in 1882 . On looking it seems that Lawrence and James Taylor had different fathers names so not brothers but maybe cousins ? Is there any sign of James Taylor and Ann nee Duxbury in Burnley on the1881 or 1891 census ? They are aged about 20 it says on their marriage in 1878 . I think this is the nancy Duxbury daughter of Thomas and Anne nee Hurst. I think by this time Thomas has remarrued to Agnes fairbairn . First child of James Taylor and Anne nee Duxbury is Ellen ann born in 1878 and second child is James Henry Taylor born in 1880 .