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Riley54

Riley54 Report 30 May 2018 23:37

Does anyone have any information on my dad's cousin Robin Peace. He was from Warsop Vale in Nottinghamshire. Probably born around 1926.

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 May 2018 00:06

Could he have been born a bit later? This is the only birth I can see in Nottinghamshire:-

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) ROBIN
Last name PEACE
Birth year 1935
Birth quarter 1
Registration month -
Mother's last name Stewart
District Basford
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Page 390
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

If this is the correct birth then it is likely that this is his death:-

England & Wales deaths 1837-2007 Transcription
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First name(s) ROBIN
Last name PEACE
Gender Male
Birth day 17
Birth month 12
Birth year 1934
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1999
District Nottingham
District number 6891A
Register number A69A
Entry number 002
Date of registration mm/yy 0699
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 May 2018 00:11

Could this be his parent's marriage? :-

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription
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First name(s) HENRY H
Last name PEACE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1928
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ HENRY H PEACE married
Bessie Stewart
Spouse's last name Stewart
District Basford
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 7B
Volume as transcribed 7B
Page number 373
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

If so then this will be his parents on the 1939 register and one of the closed records is probably Robin:-

Peace Household (5 People)
St Elmo Chestnut Grove , Carlton U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER

Bessie Peace 21 May 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 314 2
Henry H Peace 23 Jan 1900 Male Railway Cleaner & F? Married 314 1
John S Peace 26 Jan 1929 Male At School Single 314 3
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.

Kath. x


KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 May 2018 00:16

This could be his marriage:-

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) ROBIN
Last name PEACE
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1969
Registration month -
MarriageFinderâ„¢ ROBIN PEACE married
Pauline Topley
Spouse's last name Topley
District Basford
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 3C
Volume as transcribed 3C
Page number 263
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

This looks like a child from that marriage:-

England & Wales births 1837-2006 Transcription

First name(s) RICHARD STUART
Last name PEACE
Birth year 1970
Birth quarter 4
Registration month -
Mother's last name Topley
District Nottingham
County Nottinghamshire
Country England
Volume 3C
Page 1718
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 May 2018 00:21

Possibly Richard's marriage:-

England & Wales marriages 1837-2005 Transcription

First name(s) RICHARD S
Last name PEACE
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1999
Registration month 9
MarriageFinderâ„¢ RICHARD S PEACE married
Nicola J Kemp
Spouse's last name Kemp
District Loughborough
District number 601
County Leicestershire
Country England
Volume -
Page number 0888
Entry number 038
Source code RXX
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

KathleenBell

KathleenBell Report 31 May 2018 00:23

Will send you a private message with an address from the 2014 electoral register on Findmypast for Richard and his wife. They have lived there for many years so may still be at the same address.

Kath. x

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 05:46

Hello Kathleen
Thank you very much for all the information.
It could be that Robin was born later than I thought and that this is who I am looking for. I will write to his son and see if I can get any other information that will confirm the connection.

Can I just ask? In the 1939 register where two of the records in the Household are closed - do you know the reasons that records are closed and how I would be able to check to see if they can be opened.
Many thanks for your time

Sharon

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 May 2018 05:52

Record are closed for those under 100 years of age whose deaths havent been picked up to last time the register was updated

It was the reassurance at the time that records would be sealed for 100 years

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 31 May 2018 06:08

To check that is the correct cousin, who were your dad's uncles and aunts. Robin must be from your dad's mother's side?

Rose

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 08:36

Shirley

Many thanks for the clarification on that.

Sharon

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 08:40

Rose

Robin is from my dad's side.

I do have ancestors that could be his parents but I need to find the link.

thank you
Sharon

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 13:20

Who were your Dad's grandparents?
If Robin and your Dad were cousins then they must share the same grandparents.
It may be possible to make a link on following the family.

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 14:29

My Dad's grandparents were James (1864 - 1920)and Rosa (1866 - 1948) Peace nee Cox. They had 10 possibly 12 children but all I have is their names and year of birth ranging from 1884 to 1909. I have the children for four of them but not the others. I could send for death certificates but it would be expensive and there is only a slim chance of Robin being named on the death certificate as the informant.

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 17:23

1891 (for ref)
Name: James Peace
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1864
Spouse: Rosa Peace
Child: Horace Peace
Faith Peace
Mary Peace
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Newhall
Residence Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Sub registration district: Gresley
ED, Institution or Vessel: 25
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2200
Folio: 115
Household Members:
Name Age
James Peace 27
Rosa Peace 25
Horace Peace 6
Faith Peace 4
Mary Peace 2


1901 (just for ref)
Name: James Peace
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Rosa Peace
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire, England
Civil Parish: Newhall
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Ecclesiastical parish: Newhall St John
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Sub-registration district: Gresley
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 2639
Folio: 91
Page Number: 7
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members:
Name Age
James Peace 37
Rosa Peace 36
Horace Peace 16
Mary Peace 12
Harriet Peace 9
John Peace 7
Ann Peace 5
Agnes Peace 2
Arthur Peace 9/12

1911
Name: James Peace
Age in 1911: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire
Civil Parish: Stanton and Newhall
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County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: 6 Beards Rd, Newhall Nr Burton On Trent
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 26
Estimated Marriage Year: 1885
Occupation: Miner and Hewer
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Registration District Number: 365
Sub-registration district: Gresley
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 144
Piece: 16779
Household Members:
Name Age
James Peace 47
Rosa Peace 45
Mary Peace 22
John Peace 17
Arthur Peace 10
Leve Peace 8
Albert Edward Peace 6
William E Peace 3
Winnie May Peace 1

Siblings:- Horace, Faith, Mary, Harriet, John, Ann, Agnes, Arthur, Levi, Albert Edward, William E., Winnie May.

If the Robin born 1935 is your man and his father is Henry H. Peace, then he does not show as a sibling in the Peace family above.

Catherine

Catherine Report 31 May 2018 17:26

I would suggest that Henry H. Peace is the following:-

Name: Henry Hector Peace
Age in 1911: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1901
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Burton Upon Trent
Civil Parish: Burton on Trent
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County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street address: 50 Horninglow Road North, Burton Upon Trent
Occupation: school
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Registration District Number: 365
Sub-registration district: Burton upon Trent
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 182
Piece: 16797
Household Members:
Name Age
John William Peace 50
Henrietta Peace 48
John William Peace 19
Dorothy M Peace 16
Herberta Peace 12
Henry Hector Peace 10

...........and his parents are John William and Henrietta Peace, so could not be an uncle.

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 19:34

I see what you mean Catherine. Do you recommend I sign up to get parish baptisms, marriages and deaths, I am already a member on genes reunited . Also can you recommend a Family Tree maker software where I can enter my family tree.

Thank you for your help
Sharon

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 31 May 2018 20:05

How about we start with your dad? Who were your dad's parents? Might be better off to start with him and work backwards.

Rose

Riley54

Riley54 Report 31 May 2018 20:36

My dad's name was Horace Peace 1928 - 2013 to Arthur Baden Peace 1900 - 1946 and Clara neeTagg. 1900 - 1955 They had 11 children but 3 died in infancy

Arthur's parents were James 1864 - 1920 and Rosa 1865 - 1948 Peace nee Cox
They had 12 children

James' parents were George and Ann Peace nee Miller both born around 1844
They had 11 children

George's mother was Sarah Peace born 1798
I have no other information on Sarah
This is as far back as I have been able to go.

Sharon

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2018 21:27

So -
working through Arthur's male siblings -

PEACE, HORACE mms COX
GRO Reference: 1884 D Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B


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Marriages Sep 1907 (>99%)
PEACE Horace Burton 6b 765
PRICE Edith Mary Burton 6b 765


Horace Peace
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Horace Peace
Age in 1911: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Newhall, Derbyshire
Civil Parish: Swadlincote
County/Island: Derbyshire
Country: England
Street address: No 2 Union Rd, Swadlincote, Burton On Trent
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Tram Conductor
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Registration District Number: 365
Sub-registration district: Gresley
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 75
Piece: 16777
Household Members:
Name Age
Horace Peace 25
Edith Mary Peace 23
Sydney Peace 1

Another child - looks like the only other one:

Births Mar 1913 (>99%)
Peace Faith Price Burton 6b 721

Sadly, both Sidney and Faith died in infancy:

Faith Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Faith Peace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Registration Year: 1913
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 486


Sydney Peace
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915
Name: Sydney Peace
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1910
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 2
Registration district: Burton upon Trent
Inferred County: Staffordshire
Volume: 6b
Page: 498

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 31 May 2018 21:34

Arthur's brother John:


PEACE, JOHN HENRY mms COX
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in BURTON UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 425


Marriages Sep 1916 (>99%)
Peace John H Yates Burton 6b 561
Yates Lilian M Peace Burton 6b 561

Only one child, apparently:

Births Sep 1917 (>99%)
Peace Rosamund I Yates Burton 6b 551