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greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Mar 2019 18:00

Winifred born a bit earlier than the 1881 census suggests

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TANSEY, WINIFRED ARMSTRONG
GRO Reference: 1850 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 23 Page 419

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1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Back of York Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Peacock Head - Male 20 1851 - Yorkshire, England
Winifred Peacock Wife - Female 20 1851 - Yorkshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Mar 2019 18:12

Could this possibly be Winifred and Family in 1851?? Irish accent talking to a Yorkshireman

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
9, Back York Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Tansey Head Married Male 50 1801 Labourer Ireland
Yeaney Tansey Wife Married Female 42 1809 - Ireland
Charles Tansey Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 None (Criple) Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Lawrence Tansey Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 None (Criple) Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Michael Tansey Son Unmarried Male 9 1842 None (Criple) Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Ann Tansey Daughter Unmarried Female 15 1836 Labourer Lame Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Young Fett Tansey Daughter Unmarried Female 1 1850 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England

Denise

Denise Report 1 Mar 2019 18:12

Thank you both.
So Winifred was married before and a widow at 24 then she married Edward Beaman.

Regarding Margaret, the 1911 census has her birth as 1897, but 1901 census as 1894.

Definitely know that John Edward was 1899. Wish he would have talked about his family, but you couldn't draw him on anything. When he died in 1970, understand that a brother came to the funeral but not Margaret.

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Mar 2019 18:15

The 1841 for same family - makes a bit more sense

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Old Post Office Yard, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England

First name(s) Last name Sex Age Birth year Birth place
John Tansey Male 40 1801 Ireland - Labourer
Winifred Tansey Female 30 1811 Ireland
Charles Tansey Male 13 1828 Yorkshire, England
Lawrence Tansey Male 1 1840 Yorkshire, England

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Mar 2019 18:28

Find My past also do a free trial. That and Ancestry both have their plus points, and much can depend on where your research is centred.

You can see the difference in the way census are shown just on this thread for example - I use FMP and find it gives more information in one place. Looks like ErikaH used ancestry for the 1871 bottom of previous page.

The Military records I got from FMP (Ancestry also have Military but not always the same).



ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Mar 2019 19:15

Your post, greyghost, shows how things can be misread - my name for example. lol!

Yes I used Ancestry in that instance because it linked from the marriage - whch isn't on FMP in such detail

greyghost

greyghost Report 1 Mar 2019 19:18

Probably predictive text, oh how I dislike it! Corrected.

Would have to say Ancestry good for other people's trees Denise - which can give so much guidance - BUT remember to take with a pinch of salt unless proof is attached.

Denise

Denise Report 1 Mar 2019 19:31

Thank you both. You've been a great help.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2019 10:16

Name: Sara Beaman
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 16 Dec 1888
Baptism Date: 7 Mar 1889
Baptism Place: St. Dominic, Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Father: Edwardi Beaman
Mother: Winifrida Tamsy Beaman
FHL Film Number: 1936942

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2019 10:23

1939

Davison Household (4 People)
51 Dene Crescent , Rotherham C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

John E Davison 15 Jan 1899 Male General Labourer Married 243 1
Florence Davison 09 Mar 1896 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 243 2
Winifred M Hitchen (Davison) 02 Jul 1922 Female Cafe Waitress Single 243 3
Audrey Morey (Davison) 07 Oct 1923 Female Shop Assistant Grocery Single 243 4


Marriages Sep 1946 (>99%)
Davison Winifred M Hitchen Rother V. 2c 1818
Hitchen Dennis Davison Rother V. 2c 1818

Marriages Mar 1943 (>99%)
Davison Audrey Morey Rotherham 9c 1018
Morey Douglas H Davison Rotherham 9c 1018

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2019 10:36

DAVISON, MARGARET ANN BEAMEN
GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in BARNSLEY Volume 09C Page 195

Denise

Denise Report 2 Mar 2019 12:08

Hi Erika
Thanks for that.
The 1939 info shows the family. Winifred who married Dennis Hitchen is my mother.
Seems like Margaret was born in 1897 in Royston, Barnsley.
As mentioned before, can remember John Edwards brother coming to his funeral in 1970. Not sure of his first name, but Bertie comes to mind, so could have been his half brother, Albert Trueman.
Really appreciate your help.
Trawled through loads of records last night and can't find any info relating to Margaret Davison, Thomas Davison or William Davison.
Going to York and Lancaster museum on Monday as wondered if they joined up for WW1 and possibly got killed. Their stepdad John Trueman was an ex serviceman and served in WW1, so maybe they enlisted. Know John Edward was in the Navy on submarines but invalided out due to an explosion which took his hearing.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2019 13:25

To find War deaths

https://www.cwgc.org/

FREE site

Denise

Denise Report 2 Mar 2019 13:37

Thank you

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Mar 2019 11:39

First name(s) Albert Edward
Last name Trueman
Birth year 1905
Age 35
Death year 1940
Death date 23 Dec 1940
Number 4966730
Rank Private
Unit 4th Bn.
Regiment Cheshire Regiment
Grave reference Sec. 19. Grave 355.
Cemetery or Memorial Worksop (Retford Road) Cemetery
Burial country United Kingdom
Additional information Son of John Edward and Clara Trueman, of Worksop; husband of Annie Elizabeth Trueman, of Worksop.



Marriages Mar 1932 (>99%)

Storey Annie E Trueman Worksop 7b 88
Trueman Albert E Storey Worksop 7b 88

1939

2 Colbeck Street , Worksop M.B., Nottinghamshire, England


Annie E Trueman 02 Nov 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 130 1
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Births Sep 1936 (>99%)
TRUMAN Gordon Storey Worksop 7b 46

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Mar 2019 12:16

First name(s) AGNES
Last name TRUEMAN
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1932
AGNES TRUEMAN married
William H Taylor
District Worksop
District number -
County Nottinghamshire
Country England



First name(s) AGNES
Last name TAYLOR
Gender Female
Birth day 10
Birth month 2
Birth year 1907
Age -
Death quarter 2
Death year 1988
District Worksop
Register number 688
County Nottinghamshire
Volume 8
Page 1422
Country England

1939
75 South Avenue , Worksop M.B., Nottinghamshire, England

Agnes Taylor 10 Feb 1907 Female Domestic Duties Unpaid Married 93 2
William Henry Taylor 03 Apr 1902 Male Coal Mine Bricklayer (Below) Heavy Worker Married 93 1
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Births Jun 1934 (>99%)
Taylor Ronald Trueman Worksop 7b 30

Births Jun 1937 (>99%)
Taylor Raymond Truman Worksop 7b 65

Denise

Denise Report 3 Mar 2019 13:40

Thank you.
Got about Alice Trueman married in 1925 Arthur Buckley.
Got Agnes married William Henry Taylor in 1932 but not got info about children.
Got Albert married Annie Storey in 1932.
Not got child born in 1936 nor his death in 1940.
Once again thank you.
Going to join Ancestry or Find My Past as they seem much better than Genes for the money. Only joined Genes due to recommendation by a relative.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 3 Mar 2019 13:43

Albert's death is on the CWGC site - link posted above

The value of Genes Reunited is in its members - who give help

Births are easy to find on freebmd

safc

safc Report 3 Mar 2019 14:10

Marriage entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Nottinghamshire
Place Worksop
Church name St John
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 378
Marriage date 03 Oct 1925
Groom forename Arthur
Groom surname BUCKLEY
Groom age 25
Groom condition bachelor
Groom occupation Collier
Groom abode 14 Crown Street
Bride forename Alice
Bride surname TRUEMAN
Bride age 25
Bride condition spinster
Bride abode 7 Trent Street
Groom father forename Isaac
Groom father surname BUCKLEY
Groom father occupation Deceased
Bride father forename John
Bride father surname TRUEMAN
Bride father occupation Miner
Witness1 forename Thomas
Witness1 surname BUCKLEY
Witness2 forename Mary
Witness2 surname TRUEMAN
Transcribed by Karen Turner
Credit Karen Turner
File line number 1878

safc

safc Report 3 Mar 2019 14:17

????


Alice Buckley on the 1939 Register

1939 Register Transcription

Buckley Household (3 People) 5 Prospect Place, Sandy Lane , Worksop M.B., Nottinghamshire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Alice Buckley 04 Dec 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Agricultural Worker Heavy Worker Married 171 2
Arthur Buckley 30 May 1900 Male Colliery Surface Worker Married 171 1
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