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Frank Batty born. Kingston-upon-Hull

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Scott

Scott Report 23 Apr 2019 20:18

Frank Batty b.02/10/1895 in Kingston-Upon-Hull is rumoured to have been killed in the Blitz London1940 Can anyone of you Brilliant Detectives find for a Friend of Mine He was a Civilion (Thank You)

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 20:27

Was he born Frank? or Francis? Do you have parents names please?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 20:29

Look for him yourself on the CWGC site. Easy and free

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 20:32

Are you sure of birth year, not seeing one to match

?? This one appears to have been born Sculcoates?

Batty Household (2 People)
25 Lockton Street , Kensington, London, England

Frank Batty 02 Oct 1875 Male Labourer Heavy Worker Married 108 1
Maisie Batty 07 Jul 1885 Female Cook Married 108 2

Scott

Scott Report 23 Apr 2019 20:36

That sounds Good Rambling Do you know anymore ( Excited)The one that mencions Maisie Sculcoates was the old records office for Hull

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 20:51

Not seeing a death on CWGC or for Maisie, does your friend have any details of family?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 20:54

Twenty years out on the birth. Where did your friend get his/her info?

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Apr 2019 20:57

Ancestry version

Name: Massie Balty
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Jul 1885
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 25
Residence Place: Kensington, London, England
Occupation: Cook
Schedule Number: 108
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: AMPB
Registration district: 2. 2 33b
Inferred Spouse: Frank Balty
Household Members:
Name
Frank Balty
Massie Balty

Andy

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Apr 2019 20:57

A tree on Ancestry says that the Frank born 2/10/1875 was born in Hull, parents Daniel Batty 1850-1925 and Elizabeth Stokell 1853-1901.

But he married Emmeline James 1871-1940, according to the tree.
Emmeline died in Hull.


So if that's the same man, and if the tree's info is correct, then maybe he had separated from Emmeline and taken up with Maisie ??


EDIT:

the tree gives no date of death for Frank.

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 20:59

It does look like Balty on the image,but there's nothing else coming up in that name?

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Apr 2019 21:00

maybe?

Name: Frank Batty
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Daniel Batty
Mother: Elizabeth Batty
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull
Civil Parish: Drypool
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 14 East St
Education:
Registration district: Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4753
Folio: 18
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 30
Elizabeth Batty 28
John P. Batty 7
Frank Batty 5
Margaret B. Batty 3
Charles H. Batty 1

Catherine

Catherine Report 23 Apr 2019 21:02

this looks to be the Frank that married Emmeline

1939
Name: Frank Batty
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 5 Sep 1873
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 23
Residence Place: Kingston-upon-Hull, Yorkshire (East Riding), England
Occupation: Iron-moulder labourer retired
Schedule Number: 157
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: JAMH
Registration district: 522-3
Inferred Spouse: Emmeline Batty
Household Members:
Name
Frank Batty
Emmeline Batty

not same birth date


1911 for same couple
Name: Frank Batty
Age in 1911: 39
Estimated birth year: abt 1872
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Sculcoates
Search Photos: Search for 'Sculcoates' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Yorkshire-East Riding
Country: England
Street address: 5 Orchard View Newland Av Hull
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Labourer Molder
Registration district: Sculcoates
Registration District Number: 521
Sub-registration district: West Sculcoates
ED, institution, or vessel: 35
Piece: 28746
Household Members:
Name Age
Frank Batty 39
Emmeline Batty 39
Ivy May Batty 12
Harold Batty 11
Norman Batty 9
Gordon Batty 8
Constance Batty 8/12

Scott

Scott Report 23 Apr 2019 21:02

Sorry ErikaH Taken from friends granddads records Rambling Has got it right so far may be smudged I would also like to thank Rambling and you good self and Catherine for your interest and time.

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 21:04

BATTY, FRANCIS BINNING
GRO Reference: 1873 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 159

BATTY, FRANK STOKELL
GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 166

or

BATTY, FRANK ANDREW
GRO Reference: 1896 S Quarter in SCULCOATES Volume 09D Page 203

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:05

Emmeline died in 1940

Deaths Sep 1940 (>99%)
Batty Emmeline 69 Hull 9d 497

The 'other' Frank?

Name: Francis Batty
Death Age: 83
Birth Date: abt 1874
Registration Date: Mar 1957
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 2a
Page: 220



Marriages Sep 1897 (>99%)
BATTY Frank Sculcoates 9d 252
James Emmeline Sculcoates 9d 252

Rambling

Rambling Report 23 Apr 2019 21:06

This is the one born 1873 married to Emmeline

23 Prince's Road, Kingston-Upon-Hull C.B., Yorkshire (East Riding), England

Frank Batty 05 Sep 1873 Male Iron-Moulder Labourer Married 157 1
Emmeline Batty 28 Jun 1871 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Retied Single 157 2

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:06

There is NO marriage in England/Wales to match the 'couple' on 1939 register

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:07

The Ancestry tree is wrong - as so many of them are.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Apr 2019 21:13

1881

Name: Frank Batty
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Daniel Batty
Mother: Elizabeth Batty
Gender: Male
Where born: Hull
Civil Parish: Drypool
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street address: 14 East St
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 4753
Folio: 18
Page Number: 32
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 30
Elizabeth Batty 28
John P. Batty 7
Frank Batty 5
Margaret B. Batty 3
Charles H. Batty 1

1891

Name: Frank Batty
Gender: Male
Age: 15
Relationship: Son
Birth Year: 1876
Father: Daniel Batty
Mother: Elizabeth Batty
Birth Place: Hull, Yorkshire, England
Civil Parish: Southcoates
Residence Place: Kingston upon Hull, Southcoates, Yorkshire, England
Sub registration district: Drypool
ED, Institution or Vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3923
Folio: 113
Household Members:
Name Age
Daniel Batty 40
Elizabeth Batty 38
Frank Batty 15
Margaret B Batty 13
Charles H Batty 11
Edith Batty 9
William Batty 7
Frances Batty 5
Harold Batty 1
John Stokell 42

Andrew

Andrew Report 23 Apr 2019 21:14

Could this be the marriage??

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
Batty Frank Sculcoates 9d 288
Booth Minnie Sculcoates 9d 288

EDIT.

NO. She is still in Yorkshire with a son in 1939.

Andy