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Peter Theodore Vernon 1st April 1930 Liverpool

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Karen

Karen Report 28 Jul 2019 10:16

Peter's Dad- Jack Vernon we are told,was an irish immigrant who came from Ireland for a better life and settled in Liverpool, he was supposed to be in the police force ( ironic)

Peter Married unknown and had 2 daughters we still think in Liverpool
around 1950ish

Peter left his first wife and married a Joan in Devon - Exeter or Dawlish
Two sons were Born

Mark Anthony Vernon 1962 and Kevin Vernon

Peter then married a Sandra and lived in Starcross - Devon
And had
Jason, Shaun, Katrina and Wayne - We are told Wayne died

I know its really sketchy but i'm hoping someone with experience can help me piece together the fragments

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 10:19

Well the births of mark and Kevin will be on freebmd and show mothers maiden name

You should then be able to find the marriage of the parents

Edit check the births to see reg in both surnames !!

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 10:28

Check the births too for the other children to see reg in both surnames

Katrina born 1965

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 10:30

Only posting as deceased


England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007

Name: Wayne Richard Vernon
Death Age: 16
Birth Date: 8 Aug 1973
Registration Date: Jun 1990
Registration district: Exeter
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 21
Page: 1074

Sadly a young lad

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 10:36

Shaun is on the electoral rolls to 2010 in wales

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Jul 2019 10:36

A Peter Vernon with the dob you posted shows on the 1939 register at

Cottage Homes, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

(1 person)
First name(s) Last name(s) Birth year DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Peter (Theodore) Vernon 1930 01 Apr 1930 Male At School Single 2 162
Ref: RG101/4395G/009/30 Letter Code: NICX

As the transcript is open, then it looks as though he has died (although not showing on the original nor bmd's so after 2007? ).

Open on the original page is a Walter Vernon b 1925 which doesn't show on transcript.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 28 Jul 2019 10:37

Is it really necessary to mention the prison term?

What is your reason for askIng about this man?

Have you done anything yourself about looking for info?

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jul 2019 10:50

There are several Peter Vernons unfortunately so picking out the marriages may be difficult.

Re Cottage Homes Liverpool as per 1939 Register

http://www.formerchildrenshomes.org.uk/fazakerley.html

greyghost

greyghost Report 28 Jul 2019 10:50

https://www.freebmd.org.uk

Shows birth of Walter 1925 and Peter T 1930 with mmn showing - West Derby RD

Peter T marriage 1952 (did he join the Army?)

2 births to the correct surname combination following that in Liverpool

Births of the 2 sons you name in Exeter RD but unless the Mother had been married before, not seeing a marriage to the mmn recorded (or maybe marriage not in England /Wales)

Births of the 4 other children show in Exeter, again mmn listed but not seeing a marriage with that surname

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Jul 2019 10:54

Peter T Vernon married 1952, Aldershot ( was he in the army perhaps?)
daughter born Liverpool mmn Fry.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 10:54

Births Jun 1930
Vernon Peter T Gee W.Derby 8b 706


Seems to be this marriage though

Marriages Dec 1918
Gee Annie B Vernon W.Derby 8b 961
Vernon George H H Gee W.Derby 8b 961

Not a Jack so was that maybe a Nickname

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 11:22

He was a Fireman on the boats for many years

Says was there two years previously but didn’t actually sail on this trip

Dob tho ties up

View New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name: Peter Vernon
Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1954
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1930 born liverpool
Birth Location Other: Liverpool, England
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: British (English)
Place of Origin: Great Britain
Port of Departure: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Highland Prince
Search Ship Database: Search for the Highland Prince in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database


View New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957

Name: Peter T Vernon
Arrival Date: 21 Sep 1953
Birth Date: abt 1930
Age: 23
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: English
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Queen Mary
Search Ship Database: Search for the Queen Mary in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Crew member as a trimmer

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Jul 2019 11:37

1939 for parents
33 Bradgate Road, Rotherham C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England

George Vernon 1883 25 Jun 1883 Male Cutting Machine Labourer Mine Below Heavy Worker Married 163 1
Annie Vernon 1886 03 Aug 1886 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 163 2
Constance ? Smith (Vernon) 1914 03 Mar 1914 Female Steel Works Labourer Heavy Worker Single 163 3
Winifred A Massey (Cook,Vernon) 1918 25 Sep 1918 Female Shorthand Typist Single 163 4arents

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 28 Jul 2019 11:39

Greygoast

The other children are also reg with mmn so indicating not married !

AustinQ

AustinQ Report 28 Jul 2019 12:03

Original post says Peter's father is Jack (John?) Vernon (not George).

Possible marriage:

Marriages Sep 1914
Gee Emma J Vernon Wolstanton 6b 225
Vernon John T Gee Wolstanton 6b 225

EDIT: Unlikely to be this marriage, see AG post on page two

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 28 Jul 2019 12:23

There were 6 Vernon/Gee births in West Derby 1919 - 1933.

None anywhere else - for whatever that's worth!

malyon

malyon Report 28 Jul 2019 12:32

children born to peter and sandra maiden name sene but not finding a marriage

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Jul 2019 12:32

i think there were 7
however this one is strange

JOHN E
Last name HANCOCK-VERNON
Birth year 1921
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Gee
District West Derby

Name: John Edgar Vernon
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 2 Aug 1921
Registration Date: Feb 2006
Registration district: Exeter

Name: Jack Edgar Vernon
Death Age: 85
Birth Date: 2 Aug 1921
Registration Date: Feb 2006
Registration district: Exeter

why the double barrelled name i wonder

malyon

malyon Report 28 Jul 2019 12:37

a sandra sene married in 1980 exeter to a curtis

Maddie

Maddie Report 28 Jul 2019 12:43

1939 to go with AustinQ find
26 Devonshire Road, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire, England

John T Vernon 1880 22 Sep 1880 Male Steam Wagon Driver Married 123 1
Emma Vernon 1881 20 Jul 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 123 2
Harold E Vernon 1921 07 May 1921 Male Collector For General Draper Single 123 3

Name: Harold E Vernon
Registration Date: Apr 1921
[May 1921]
[Jun 1921]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: West Derby
Inferred County: Lancashire
Mother's Maiden Name: Pritchard ---------------

so maybe not that couple