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Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 12:19


I am looking for Ann Jeeves/Jeves/Jeaves or similar born 1828, Poplar,Middlesex.

On 25/7/1853 Ann Jeves married Robert Loader in Stepney Daughter Sarah 's surname is Loder. Robert Loader died and in 1861 Ann Loader married Henry Albert Whapham, Mile End Old Town, London. Ann and Henry Whapham are my gg grandparents.

Henry Whapham died in 1865 and Ann married again to John Pound both are widowed.

I have 1861 census but this was before her marriage to Henry which shows her family of Loader's and that of her brother William Jeeves who is 30, his spouse with 2 children. I have found Edward Loader born 1847 and have just found Richard Jeeves 1836 Limehouse

I would be most grateful if someone could find the 1851 census hoping this helps me with any other family member

Thank you
Rose

malyon

malyon Report 7 Oct 2020 12:37

Ann Reeves
England and Wales Census, 1851

Name:
Ann Reeves
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1851
Event Place:
Saint George The Martyr, Surrey, England
Registration District:
Saint George Southwark
Residence Note:
Kings Bench Walk
Gender:
Female
Age:
23
Occupation:
House Servant
Birth Year (Estimated):
1828
Birthplace:
Lambeth, Surrey
Relationship to Head of Household:
Servant
Page Number:
27
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
1564 / 254
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1851/4304024/00497&parentid=GBC/1851/0004775608
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Potrer Head Male 30 St George, Southwark
Elizabeth Potier Wife Female 27 St Johns, Westminster
Alfred Potier Son Male 8 St George, Southwark
Charles Potier Son Male 4 St George, Southwark
Elizabeth Potier Daughter Female 1 St George, Southwark
Ann Reeves Servant Female 23 Lambeth, Surrey

malyon

malyon Report 7 Oct 2020 12:48

Sarah Loader
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name:
Sarah Loader
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1861
Event Place:
Stepney, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Stepney, London, Middlesex, England
County:
London, Middlesex
Parish:
Stepney
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St James
Registration District:
Stepney
Residence Note:
George Street
Gender:
Female
Age:
2
Occupation:
Scholar
Birth Year (Estimated):
1859
Birthplace:
Ratcliff, Middlesex
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Daughter
Page Number:
5
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
284 / 139
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Affiliate Image Identifier:
http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1861/0284/00170B&parentid=GBC/1861/0001827722
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Ann Loader Head Female 32 Linchmere, Middlesex
Edward Loader Son Male 14 Wapping, Middlesex
Eliza Loader Daughter Female 4 Ratcliff, Middlesex
Richard Geeve Boarder Male 25 Limehouse, Middlesex
Sarah Loader Daughter Female 2 Ratcliff, Middlesex
Eliza Geeve Sister Female 39 Limehouse, Middlesex

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 12:53

Name: Robert Loader
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 25 Jul 1853
Marriage Place: St Thomas, Stepney, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Loader
Spouse: Ann Jeves
Father: William Jeves.........Labourer

One of the witnesses was Robert Jeves

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 12:55

1871???????????

Name: Wm Jeves
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: 1808
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Hitchin Hertfordshire England
Civil Parish: St Leonard Shoreditch
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity Hoxton
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration District: Shoreditch
Sub-registration District: Hoxton New Town
ED, institution, or vessel: Holborn Union Workhouse
Household Schedule Number: 1

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 13:14

Name: Ann Jeeves
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 29 Feb 1828
Baptism Place: Poplar All Saints, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Jeeves
Mother: Eliza Jeeves
Register Type: Parish Registers

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 13:17

Name: Martha Jeeves
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Dec 1825
Baptism Place: Poplar All Saints, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Jeeves
Mother: Eliza Jeeves

Name: Robert Jeeves
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 3 Mar 1833
Baptism Place: Limehouse St Anne, Tower Hamlets, England
Father: William Jeeves
Mother: Eliza Jeeves

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2020 14:22

just shows a little more info

First name(s) Ann
Last name Jeeves
Birth year 1828
Baptism year 1828
Baptism date 29 Feb 1828
Address Poplar
Father's first name(s) William
Father's occupation Watchman
Mother's first name(s) Eliza
Parish All Saints, Poplar
Church address East India Dock Road
County Middlesex

there is this 1851, not sure it is relevant

Record Transcription:
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Manor Court, Stepney, London & Middlesex, England

Robert Louder Head Married Male 32 1819 Coal Porter Weymouth, Dorset, England
Ann Jeves Visitor Unmarried Female 22 1829 Dress Maker Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Edward Jeves Son - Male 4 1847 - Limehouse, Middlesex, England

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:29

That 1851 looks spot on, Maddie

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:33

Name: Edward-george Jeeves
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 4 Sep 1846
Baptism Place: Wapping, Tower Hamlets, England
Mother: Ann Jeeves

JEEVES, EDWARD GEORGE -
GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 02 Page 541

So Edward 'Loader' was in fact Jeeves...........................father unknown

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:38

1841..............MAYBE



Name: Ann Jeffs
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1826
Gender: Female
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Hundred: Ossulstone (Holborn Division)
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street Address: Seymour Place
Registration District: St Marylebone
Sub-registration District: St Mary
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 679
Book: 7
Folio: 6
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Jeffs 35...................Cab Driver
Elizabeth Jeffs 15
Ann Jeffs 15
Richard Jeffs 8

Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 14:39

Hello ladies, Thank you so much. This is the family I am looking for. Thought there may be more siblings for Ann and luckily you have found me 2 more.

Malyon Ann was born Limehouse Middlesex.

Robert Jeves was witness at Ann's wedding to Robert Loader

The dates for William Jeeves do not fit sadly as according to when Ann married Henry in 1861 he was deceased.

Thank you so much now to see if I can find Martha and Robert

Rose x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:46

Robert was obviously alive in 1853, as per the marriage info I posted - Martha may have died pre-1841

I'm wondering if 'Richard' in 1841 was actually Robert, in view of the age. No baptism for a 'Richard'

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 14:51

?????????????
1861
Name: Martha Jeeves
Age: 34
Estimated Birth Year: 1827
Gender: Female
Where born: Limehouse, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Stepney St Dunstan
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Registration District: Mile End Old Town
Sub-registration District: Mile End Old Town Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 29
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Schedule Number: 118
Piece: 293
Folio: 32
Page Number: 26
Name Age
George Wright 51
Calia A Wright 61
Fanny S Wright 18
Maria L Wright 16
Maria M Wright 60
Cath L Wright 55
Martha Jeeves 34

Deaths Dec 1897 (>99%)
Jeeves Martha 71 Poplar 1c 405

Name: Martha Jeeves
Death Date: 27 Oct 1897
Death Place: Middlesex, England
Probate Date: 6 Nov 1897
Probate Registry: London, England
Address; 46, Archibald Street, Bow
Probate to Charles Oliver, Printer.
Effects £395 1s 2d

Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 15:10

Hello ladies, Thank you so much. This is the family I am looking for. Thought there may be more siblings for Ann and luckily you have found me 2 more.

Malyon Ann was born Limehouse Middlesex.

Robert Jeves was witness at Ann's wedding to Robert Loader

The dates for William Jeeves do not fit sadly as according to when Ann married Henry in 1861 he was deceased.

Thank you so much now to see if I can find Martha and Robert

Rose x

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 7 Oct 2020 15:12

You posted that before ;-) ;-) ;-)

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2020 15:46

Possible death of Ann's father, if he was alive in 1853 but deceased by 1861 ??

JEVES, WILLIAM 87
GRO Reference: 1858 J Quarter in STEPNEY Volume 01C Page 338


(But not if Ann's father was 35 in 1841.)

Maddie

Maddie Report 7 Oct 2020 16:00

???
ROBERT
Last name JEEVES
Gender Male
3
Death year 1855
District Stepney
County London
Volume 1C
Page 358
Country England

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 7 Oct 2020 16:01

Maybe a possibiity for Robert:

Robert Jeffres
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Robert Jeffres
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Relation: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: Lambeth St Mary Princes Road
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England
Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
View image
Registration District: Lambeth
Sub-registration District: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 05
Neighbors:
Household Schedule Number: 19a
Piece: 1572
Folio: 100
Page Number: 9
Household Members:
Name Age
Maria Cannon 49
William Cannon 24
James Cannon 20
Elizabeth Cannon 18
Elizas Cannon 13
George Cannon 8
Robert Jeffres 21 - smith, unmarried

Rose

Rose Report 7 Oct 2020 16:09

Maddie a perfect fit BUT I am confused

Why is Ann visiting a married Robert Louder born in Dorset, parents Robert and Mary Loader when according to Ann and Roberts marriage certificate states he is a bachelor and his father as William Loader, shipwright. The premises being Manor Court, Stepney.
OMG Just found another Loader family in Dorset, William and Mary Loader son Robert born 14/12/1821, father is a Mariner.

Richard kept his name, he married Hannah Kinley in Dec 1863, Stepney My gg grandfather was one of the witnesses . They had one daughter Hannah who married John Wood. Probate 30/3/1900 to his daughter Hannah Wood.

What a find, thank you so much
Rose x