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Florence Louisa Poultney born 1898 Dudley

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♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 2 Mar 2021 18:21

My nephews grt gran seems to of disappeared from the records in 1939. No marriage or death seems to be found.

Name Florence L Poultney
Marital Status Single
Birth Date 15 Feb 1898
Residence Year 1939
Address New Cross Institution Residence Place Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Occupation Incapacitated Line Number 3 Schedule Number 6 Sub Schedule Number 117 OVSPI Patient Enumeration District OQDC Borough Wolverhampton Registration district369A/1
Is there anyone out there that knows what happened to her.

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 2 Mar 2021 18:37

Dates are wrong but ??

Deaths Jun 1976

Probably NOT the above, as this looks to be a likely birth

Births Mar 1898
Poultney Florence Louisa...... Dudley 6c 143


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 2 Mar 2021 18:39

Sorry but it was Florence Louisa Poultney so don't think that's right, thanks


ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2021 18:42

Checking the birth produces

First name(s) Florence Louisa
Last name Poultney
Birth quarter 1
Birth year 1898
Mother's maiden name Witts
District Dudley
County Staffordshire

Are you sure that the UNMARRIED woman in 1939 is your relative?

Have you checked every step of the way working backwards?

First name(s) Florence L
Last name Poultney
Marriage quarter 4
Marriage year 1928
Florence L Poultney married John Green
District Dudley
District number -
County Staffordshire


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 2 Mar 2021 18:46

Yes, That is another Florence, part of the same family as in cousin but born a few years later.The Florence i'm looking for had a child in 1930 and was unmarried at the time.Thanks
I have the rest of the family tree sorted, and Witts was her mothers name, that is the correct one, the one that married Green, her mums maiden name was Gennard


ErikaH Report 2 Mar 2021 19:00

Name: Florence L Poultney
[Florence L Gray]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1898
Residence Year: 1939
Address: New Cross Institution

Did you look at the 1939 image?


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 2 Mar 2021 19:01

Yes that's the one, yes i did look at the image and Seen the Gray name, but couldn't find a marriage


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 2 Mar 2021 19:02

I know, it's a bit strange that it's got the Gray name put on it as there are no marriages for her to a gray


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 2 Mar 2021 19:05

Unless she just changed her name


Kay???? Report 2 Mar 2021 23:58


Doc True
TO A CHILD. A case of alleged cruelty to a child was investigated at. Dudley Patios Court yesterday riday), when Florence Louisa Poultney MI, of 5, Great 11111. Dudley, was charged with cruelty to her illegitimate child. aged seven months. Mr. Thompson
08 January 1921 - Dudley Chronicle - Dudley, Worcestershire, England

possibly unconnected.?

Gwyn in Kent

Gwyn in Kent Report 3 Mar 2021 03:41

Did the 1930s child stay with it's mother?

I was wondering whether a school log would give name and address for the parent, which might take the search forward a few years.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Mar 2021 06:01

The child was a Mary A Poultney born 1920

Here she is in 1939

: Mary A Poultney
[Mary A Gibbs]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Birth Date: 25 Jun 1920
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 23 Tenscore Street
Residence Place: West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: Press Worker Spring Works
Line Number: 6
Schedule Number: 108
Sub Schedule Number: 4
Enumeration District: OPBC
Borough: West Bromwich
Registration district: 371/1 21
Household Members Age
Edwin Flavell
James Peters
Emily Peters
Mary A Poultney 19

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 3 Mar 2021 06:23

But there two more possibles in 1930 too

A tree on ancestry has identitied the child as Doris and notes she was put into barnardos

Married 1951 and passed in 2007


ErikaH Report 3 Mar 2021 12:37

Obviously no way of knowing age or marital status.........long shot

Name: Florence L Poultney
Residence Year: 1946
Street Address: Ridgewood,
Parliamentary Division: Thornbury
Residence Place: Gloucestershire, England

Not at the address in 1939..........Richard and Katherine were there in 1946

Ridgewood Tockington Lane, Almondsbury, Thornbury R.D., Gloucestershire, England
Richard E Potter 03 Oct 1855 Male Retired Land Montage Udc Married 13 1
Harriott I Potter 22 Dec 1865 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 13 2
Katherine A Potter 02 Nov 1906 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Single 13 3
Eileen M Jenkins (Aldridge) 14 Jul 1915 Female Cook Single 13 4
Margaret L Bennett 04 Aug 1920 Female Parlour Maid Single 13 5
Maud Cook (Poyner) 14 Mar 1925 Female Housemaid Single 13 6


alviegal Report 3 Mar 2021 14:21

The Florence Louisa in the Child Cruelty case was 23 and her baby was taken to the Union Infirmary, the NSPCC brought the case.
"The Bench (acknowledging that the mother had worked for her 2 children) bound her over for 12 months, especially in regard to the care of her children, warning her if she did not keep the children properly she would yet come up for sentence. Mr Greaves JP: I disagree with the decision."

08 January 1921 - Dudley Chronicle - Dudley, Worcestershire, England


ErikaH Report 3 Mar 2021 14:50

Births Dec 1918 (>99%)
Poultney Kathleen A Poultney Dudley 6b 1546
Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Poultney Thomas H Poultney Dudley 6b 1666
Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
Poultney Mary A Poultney Dudley 6b 2040
Births Dec 1922 (>99%)
Poultney Thomas W Poultney Dudley 6b 1688
Births Dec 1926 (>99%)
Poultney Thomas J Poultney Dudley 6b 1517
Births Sep 1928 (>99%)
Poultney Edith Poultney Dudley 6b 1531
Births Jun 1930 (>99%)
Poultney Doris Poultney Dudley 6b 1581

GRO confirms their illegitimacy

GRO Reference: 1918 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1546
GRO Reference: 1920 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 2040
GRO Reference: 1919 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1666
GRO Reference: 1922 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1688
GRO Reference: 1926 D Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1517
GRO Reference: 1928 S Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1531
GRO Reference: 1930 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06B Page 1581

Deaths Sep 1919 (>99%)
Poultney Thomas H 0 Dudley 6b 774
Deaths Mar 1923 (>99%)
POULTNEY Thomas W 0 Dudley 6b 1083
Deaths Mar 1929 (>99%)
Poultney Edith 0 Dudley 6b 1696

I note that Florence had a sister EDITH, and that her father's name was THOMAS, as was her brother's

GRO Reference: 1896 J Quarter in DUDLEY Volume 06C Page 117
Deaths Dec 1914 (>99%)
Poultney Thomas J 18 Dudley 6b 1029


ErikaH Report 4 Mar 2021 11:18

Sister Edith in 1939???????

Name: Edith Plant
[Ann Plant]
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 28 Feb 1900
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 5,
Residence Place: Dudley, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Line Number: 40
Schedule Number: 69
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: QHAF
Borough: Dudley
Registration district: 372 B 1
Household Members Age
Joseph Plant 44
Edith Plant 39
Joseph Plant 4

Any contact with this branch of the family?


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 4 Mar 2021 16:11

Oh wow, sorry only just seen this, thank you. The daughter Doris Poultney was my nephews gran and she was put into a Dr Barnardo's home but we never knew what happened to her mother Florence after she was in the New Cross Institution in 1939. Edith was Florence sister that is correct. We have no contact with any of that family as Doris grew up not knowing her family. Edith Poultney (Plant) had a boy with her in 1939 but it had another name with it as well Joseph Desmond Hill next to his name. I think they might have either adopted him as there was no birth records for his other name Joseph Plant. I noticed all the other illegitimate births and also wondered if they were Florence's children, some of them died but not sure if it was straight after birth or maybe something more serious reading the above. To me that sounds why she was in a Institution. Thanyou for finding this its horrible to know that's what has happened but it answers a lot of questions.


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 4 Mar 2021 16:14

Forgot to say Thomas, Florence's brother died 1914 so not sure if he had any children or was married before that but will have to check


♥♥♥Debbie♥♥♥ Report 4 Mar 2021 16:16

Thank you all so much for your help