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Thank you Kay i will chase this lead up tomorrow , im not 100% but i think i have tried this before as the address seems to ring a bell but i have so many prices of paper andnotepads etc at the moment ccan't confirm if I have , I will keep you posted

I don't really understand why we are discounting the Muriel Elizabeth Hall whose details I identified

sorry, I forgot to post her birth, so I'll recap

> single, aged 35 in 1945
Births Sep 1910
HALL Muriel E Farnham 2a 156

> 1911 with parents in Farnham
Thomas Hall 49 farmer and miller
Edith Hall 40
(note mother's age when Muriel was born)
Muriel Elizabeth Hall 9m
Winifred Beatrice Hall 15
Bertha Pinnells 22 servant

> 1939 register in Guildford, unmarried youngest child caring for elderly mother
Elizabeth M (Muriel) Hall 1910
Edith Hall 1869
(she seems to have gone by her middle name)

> died in reg dist where Susan was born
Name: Muriel Elizabeth Hall
Birth Date: 9 Jun 1910
Date of Registration: Dec 1969
Age at Death: 59
Registration district: Surrey South Western

> mother had died in Surrey SW in 1957
Name: Edith Hall
Birth Date: abt 1869
Date of Registration: Dec 1957
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Surrey South Western

> father's death
Deaths Mar 1932
Hall Thomas 72 Farnham 2a 286


Ms Hall's address in the adoption proceedings was, from the opening post here:
Stoneleigh, Mount herion [Hermon] Road, Woking, Surrey

Stoneleigh, Mount Hermon Road, Woking, United Kingdom
is a location in England recognized by google maps, which shows a residential area consisting of modern (i.e. 20th century) terraced houses
(but I'm not really good with mid-20th century housing ... would those houses have been built after 1945?)

this link will take you there
http://tinyurl.com/jspfub5

here is an 1888 architectural drawing of a new house on "Mount Hermon Estate" Woking
http://archiseek.com/2010/1888-new-house-mount-hermon-estate-woking-surrey/

http://wokinghistory.org/onewebmedia/150710.pdf
says the former farm land of Mount Hermon was sold off for development in the late 19th century, and has an early photograph of Mount Hermon Road

http://www.woking.gov.uk/planning/listedbuildings/whichbuildingsarelisted/wwwwokinggovukplanningheritage.pdf
MOUNT HERMON
This area of land formerly known as the Mount Hermon Estate and the York Estate was developed at the turn of the Century following the sale of the 136 acre Cross Lanes Farm in 1883. It was probably the most significant development in Woking south of the railway line following the completion of the station in 1838 and together with the Hill View Estate on the other side of the Guildford Road it formed the southern approach to the town.


however ... looking in the 1911 census, I see numerous households on Mount Hermon Road (with numerous servants) identified by what seem to be house names ... Northaw Lodge, Southwold, Lynwood, Orietton, Edenmore ... so it does seem possible that this was a house


and then I offered suggestions for contacting that Ms Hall's family
. the member of this site is likely distantly related but may know the family
. Ms Hall's elderly nephew is on the current electoral roll

Jooniecloonie
I have far from discounted the Muriel Hall you mention :-) my plan is to contact her nephew and also speak to the reverend at the Church who may (hopefully) will perhaps be able to confirm on weather or not Stoneleigh was indeed a house/Vicarage and also perhaps have old church records with her name (as I know the church my family attended when I was a child have records of my Parents marriage and mine and my brother's baptism etc

the thing is that if this Muriel Elizabeth Hall is the right one ... and I don't see how she could not be :-) ... she has no connection with any vicarage

she was the daughter of a farm couple and in 1939 was living with her widowed mother in Farnham ... and died in the reg district that covers Farnham and Guildford

in 1911 the family's address was Willey Mill
this is the google streetview showing Willey Mill House in Farnham
http://tinyurl.com/nclz4up

what you might do is pay to look at the full record for her in 1939 which would give an actual address in Farnham that year and show Ms Hall's occupation

http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register
search for Elizabeth Hall dob 1910, Farnham U.D.

you might also get her death certificate

this is a pretty circuitous route for info, but if it led to finding her employer it could be valuable info

I believe you are right what I meant by a connection to the church is that on Mums adoption order it states Murials address as Stoneleigh and just maybe she was a welfare officer working for them as I know that adoptions were also arranged through churches , the other thing on Mums adoption order was an address given as Farnhamhouse Farnham , the only Farnham house back in 1945 was also part of the Willey estate :-)

The answer to your question with reference to the houses is yes, they were built after 1945 they are simular to my house which was built in the 1950s :-)

Sorry not Willy but Moor Park estate ...just checked x

found 1949 and 1952 telephone listing at Ancestry

Mrs Edith Hall
Glengariff
Crondall Lane
Farnham

and 1962 to 1968

Miss M E Hall
Hill Clo
Tilford rd
Farnham

(my Ms Hall died 1969)

You say you tried Farnham Court but what about Guildford?

Rose

Hi Rose Farnham directed me to Guildford who e-mailed the Custodians who hold old records who I also contacted and later spoke with ..... Sadly no trace! :-(

Hi, just had a look at the houses shown in the link. The terraced houses on the right look to be from the 1970's onwards. The style of the houses on the left seems to indicate that they were more recently built.

If you can find out which local authority covers this area it should be possible to speak to someone in the planning department who MAY tell you roughly when the houses were built. In an area that has been redeveloped more houses are usually built than pulled down so perhaps house numbering may hold a clue. Also I think that you have to have some sort of official permission i.e. planning or some such before a house can be demolished.

Good luck with all your searches

Thank you so much for your help I really do appreciate it :-) jooniecloonie you mentioned earlier that Muriels nephew is on here ? ....I can't find a tree with her name on it :-(

The thing is that there is absolutely no reason to think 'Stoneleigh' was connected with a church! the fact that a former vicar was living there when he died (and I still think it was an area, not a house) doesn't make it a vicarage :-)


the person in a tree here at this site is Winifred, Muriel's sister

Winifred Hall 1895 Farnham, Hampshire

the tree owner is related to Winifred's husband

I managed to find her and have sent a message :-) fingers crossed, i think i have come to the conclusion that in some way Stoneleigh may be the name of a house, I know perhaps daft to think but my Grandparents (Mums adoptive parents) full address is on the adoption order also there house here had a name this was used when writing down there Andreas they never put down the number , maybe strange I don't know!

Just checked Mums adoption order , my Grandparents house in Farnham at the time of her adoption also had a name not number for the address so maybe quite common then (maybe clutching at straws again but iI'm hopeing I'm not) :-)

Diane,

Did you apply to Guildford or Farnham for any paperwork.?

Hi Kay,I firstly got in touch with Farnham who the directed me to Guildford as it was Farnham Juvenile court where Mums adoption hearing was held , I spoke to Guildfordcourt then ee-mailed all information I had which I was able to get from the application and order (this was handed over to my Mum after my Grandfather died, (apparently he was not supposed to of had these 2 documents)this was how I was able to get a copy of Mums birth cert !

Although not relevant to your searches, houses in rural areas were frequently named rather than numbered. This was certainly still happening in the 1950s. All the properties on the 'new build' road we moved to were given names by their first owners, not numbers. Those names are on the Land Registry registered Deeds.

new thread

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1359901

Hi ,sadly I have had no joy in my search so far but will never give up ,I do have a question ...on Mums birth cert it states that Ethel was working as a Clerical Officer for the GPO does anyone know where I can find information as I looked on GPO records and cannot find anything ,I have also been told that once married ladies couldn't work for the GPO ....is this true ...if so this confirms Ethel was single at the time of Mums birth ??