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Maria

Maria Report 2 Dec 2009 16:34

any details of Stephen born 1854believe he moved to ? Croydon Born Isle of Wight

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Dec 2009 16:37

1855 dob here on the 1881 census

Stephen HOAR Head M Male 26 St Lawrence, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England House Painter
Emily E. HOAR Wife M Female 24 Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Rose E. HOAR Daur Female 6 Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Stephen R. HOAR Son Male 3 Sandown, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
Ada JONES Sist In L Female 12 Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England


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Source Information:
Dwelling 2 Rokeby Cotg
Census Place Brading, Hampshire, England
Family History Library Film 1341289
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 1183 / 39
Page Number 30

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Dec 2009 16:37

Is this him with his parents please?

Name: Stephen Hoar
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Betsey
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, St Lawrence
Civil parish: Brading
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Sandown
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration district: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 25
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members: Name Age
Robert Hoar 54
Betsey Hoar 55
Nicholas Hoar 23
Louisa Hoar 24
Mary A Newbery 22
Thomas Hoar 19
Stephen Hoar 17
Margrate Hoar 14
Rosena Hoar 11 months
James Hoar 3 months
Alfred Reeves 19


JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Dec 2009 16:38

So, you have some details yourself, or you wouldn't be asking about him.

Parents? siblings? wife? children?

What would you like to know that you don't already know? No point in people "finding" things you know!


A quick census search shows him in 71, 81, 91 and 01 with wife Emily E and children Rose, Bessie, George ...


And I just can't ever figure out why people go madly off in all directions finding everything they can about someone in response to a question as vague as this!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 Dec 2009 16:39

1901 census?

Name: Stephen Hoar
Age: 47
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily E
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, St Lawrence

Civil parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: Croydon Christchurch
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 48
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 99
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Hoar 47
Emily E Hoar 46 b IOW Brading
Rose E Hoar 26 b IOW Sandown
Bessie F M Hoar 19 b IOW Sandown
Bertram H Hoar 6 b Croydon
George W Burt 22 Boarder b IOW Sandown

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Dec 2009 16:39

Same Stephen with wife in 1881?

Name: Stephen Hoar
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily E.
Gender: Male
Where born: St Lawrence, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Brading
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address: 2 Rokeby Cotg
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View image
Occupation: House Painter

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration district: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Stephen Hoar 26
Emily E. Hoar 24
Rose E. Hoar 6
Stephen R. Hoar 3
Ada Jones 12


LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 Dec 2009 16:41

1891 census?
Name: Stephen Hoar
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Emily
Gender: Male
Where born: Isle of Wight, St Lawrence

Civil parish: Croydon
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Croydon
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View image

Registration district: Croydon
Sub-registration district: Croydon
ED, institution, or vessel: 23
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Stephen Hoar 36
Emily Hoar 34
Rose Hoar 16
Bessie Hoar 7

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Dec 2009 16:41

As Janey says - what information are you looking for please?

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 Dec 2009 16:41

1861 census?

Name: Stephen Hoar
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Robert
Mother's Name: Betsey
Gender: Male
Where born: St Luerann, Hampshire, England

Civil parish: Brading
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Sandown
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Isle Of Wight
Sub-registration district: Ryde
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hoar 44 b Saltash Cornwall occ Coast Guard Service
Betsey Hoar 45 b Saltash Cornwall
Robert Hoar 14 b Shanklin
Nicholis Hoar 13 b Shanklin
Maryan Hoar 11b Shanklin
Thomas Hoar 9 b Shaklin
Stephen Hoar 6 b St Lawrence
Margret Hoar 4 b St Lawrence

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 2 Dec 2009 16:45

1911

HOUSEHOLD HOAR STEPHEN M 1855 56 Croydon Surrey

living with

HOUSEHOLD HOAR BERTRAM M 1895 16 Croydon Surrey
HOUSEHOLD HOAR BESSIE F 1884 27 Croydon Surrey
HOUSEHOLD HOAR EMILY F 1856 55 Croydon Surrey

LiverBird1

LiverBird1 Report 2 Dec 2009 16:45

Thought I'd throw in these too

Name: Stephen Hoar
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1854
Christening Date: 30 Apr 1854
Christening Place: St Lawrence, Hampshire, England
Father's Name: Robert Hoar
Mother's Name: Betsey


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005
about Stephen Hoar
Name: Stephen Hoar
Death Registration Month/Year: Q2-Apr-May-Jun 1944
Age at death (estimated): 90
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: Surrey
Volume: 2a
Page: 854

Maria

Maria Report 2 Dec 2009 17:12

Thank you Yes that is his family on isle of wight but cenus 1901 did not give me marriage details and his family I would not be asking if i knew Thanks some of you gave me details i have.nt got

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Dec 2009 17:13

Anyhow, the reason I was interested.

My grx2 grandfather, baptised Francis Hoar Hill, had a brother named Stephen Hoare Hill, born 1822. Father James Hill, mother Ann -- and I have always assumed she was Ann Hoar(e). I know nothing more about James and Ann, or their son Stephen. The two sons were baptised in Tamerton Foliatt, Devon (Devonport). That part of Devon and the bit of Cornwall adjoining it were somewhat interchangeable, and people moved back and forth. I think my Hills, and Hoar(e)s, if such they are, were likely from Cornwall, possibly the Saltash area.

Francis Hoar(e) Hill married (or not) Sarah Emma Bond of St Stephens by Saltash, Cornwall. In 1851, Francis and Sarah were living in Linkinhorne, Cornwall, in a cottage that seems to be adjacent to a farm owned by a Hoar family. I have surmised that the (deceased) father of that family may have been an uncle of Francis.


Your Stephen's father, in 1871:

Name: Robert Hoar
Age: 54
Estimated birth year: abt 1817
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Betsey
Gender: Male
>> Where born: Suttash, Cornwall, England

Robert Hoar 54
Betsey Hoar 55
Nicholas Hoar 23
Louisa Hoar 24
Mary A Newbery 22
Thomas Hoar 19
Stephen Hoar 17
Margrate Hoar 14
Rosena Hoar 11 months
James Hoar 3 months

>> Saltash, Cornwall.


I'm not seeing Robert in 51 or 61 - someone else may have done that by the time I'm finished here. ;)

But I wonder whether this is him in 41:


Name: Robert Hoar
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1806
Where born: Cornwall, England

Civil parish: St Mawgan (in Pyder)
County/Island: Cornwall
Registration district: St Columb Major

Robert Hoar 35
Nicholas Hoar 1


Which might make Betsey his second wife.

--- edit, see page 2 --- the above is the wrong Robert; I think these are your Stephen's parents in 1841:

Civil parish: St Stephen By Saltash
Registration district: St Germans

Robert Hoare 20 - Navy
Betsey Hoare 20
John Hoare 2
James Greet 40


"My" Hoars on the farm in Linkinhorne seem to have come originally from the Linkinhorne area, relocated to St Columb for a generation, and then moved back. In 1861 the family includes children born in both St Columb and Linkinhorne.

My theory is that "my" Ann Hoar married James Hill in St Columb Minor in 1817. A John Hoare married Grace Blowey in St Sampson, Golant (where Grace Hore in 1861 was born), 17 Feb 1820, and I think they are the couple with the farm in Linkinhorne. In 1841, they are:

John Hoar 50 (deceased by 1851)
Grace Hoar 40
Grace Hoar 18
William Hoar 15
Jane Hoar 14
Catherine Hoar 12
John Hoar 10
Ruben Hoar 7
David Hoar 4
Samuel Hoar 2
Joshua Hoar 2weeks


I had delved into these people in great detail back when familyhistoryonline had complete Cornwall census records readily available. Those records have now gone to FMP to which I don't have access. I'm not sure how many of them I printed off (and didn't recycle, thinking they would always be easily accessible). I would have to shuffle through piles of paper to find what I kept.

Now, it isn't like Hoar(e)s aren't a dime a dozen in Cornwall.

In 1841 there are a couple of dozen in St Stephen by Saltash, variously spelled Hore and Hoare. (The spelling was completely interchangeable at the time.) An Ancestry user has corrected the name from HONE in one household, and could be contacted through that system - although that head of household seems to come from Scotland.

All this in response to that vague question ... but you never know, we might be cousins. ;)

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Dec 2009 17:14

Have you looked on FreeBMD for the marriage??

You'll find it in about 3 seconds!

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 2 Dec 2009 17:22

a family reunion!!!!!! I'm filling up here!!!

LondonBelle

LondonBelle Report 2 Dec 2009 17:24

This is their marriage....it didn't seem to come up for me under Hoar

Marriages Sep 1876

HOAR Stephen I Wight 2b 953
Jones Emily Elizabeth I. Wight 2b 953


This fits in nicely with the 1881 census in which Ada Jones is listed as Sister in Law

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 2 Dec 2009 17:26

It came up for me in three seconds, Stephen Hoar + Emily.

Couldn't see any reason for Maria not to look herself!

Maria

Maria Report 2 Dec 2009 17:41

hi As you say Hoar is not that common name. I came across a Rodert Nicholas Hoarb Sept 1850 in Saltash and died 1904 in Newton Abbot. He was a customs officer married twice to Ann Sinclair and a Margaret Mercer. I thought he might be connected as Robert and Nicholas are family namesHe was in County Durham in 1891 any help or clues?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Dec 2009 19:16

A good site here for Isle of Wight records:

http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/bmd/startbmd.htm

They have Stephen Hoar born 1854, Godshill. Two names for mother, Clines or Elines.

It also has the marriage to Emily E. Jones, 1876.

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 2 Dec 2009 19:23

Also possible siblings from Isle of Wight site:

HOAR, Robert, Stephen 1846 ELINES Ryde R7/P40

HOAR, Nicholas, Edward 1848 ELMES Ryde R8/P30

HOAR, Thomas, Richard 1852 ELMES Ryde R11/P70

HOAR, Margaret, Elizabeth 1857 ELMES Godshill G10/P25