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Maria
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2 Dec 2009 16:34 |
any details of Stephen born 1854believe he moved to ? Croydon Born Isle of Wight
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AnnCardiff
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2 Dec 2009 16:37 |
1855 dob here on the 1881 census
Stephen HOAR Head M Male 26 St Lawrence, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England House Painter Emily E. HOAR Wife M Female 24 Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Rose E. HOAR Daur Female 6 Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Stephen R. HOAR Son Male 3 Sandown, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Ada JONES Sist In L Female 12 Brading, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Dwelling 2 Rokeby Cotg Census Place Brading, Hampshire, England Family History Library Film 1341289 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1183 / 39 Page Number 30
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2 Dec 2009 16:37 |
Is this him with his parents please?
Name: Stephen Hoar Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Betsey Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Wight, St Lawrence Civil parish: Brading Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Sandown County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 128 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hoar 54 Betsey Hoar 55 Nicholas Hoar 23 Louisa Hoar 24 Mary A Newbery 22 Thomas Hoar 19 Stephen Hoar 17 Margrate Hoar 14 Rosena Hoar 11 months James Hoar 3 months Alfred Reeves 19
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JaneyCanuck
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2 Dec 2009 16:38 |
So, you have some details yourself, or you wouldn't be asking about him.
Parents? siblings? wife? children?
What would you like to know that you don't already know? No point in people "finding" things you know!
A quick census search shows him in 71, 81, 91 and 01 with wife Emily E and children Rose, Bessie, George ...
And I just can't ever figure out why people go madly off in all directions finding everything they can about someone in response to a question as vague as this!
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2 Dec 2009 16:39 |
1901 census?
Name: Stephen Hoar Age: 47 Estimated birth year: abt 1854 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emily E Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Wight, St Lawrence Civil parish: Croydon Ecclesiastical parish: Croydon Christchurch Town: Croydon County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: 48 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 99 Household Members: Name Age Stephen Hoar 47 Emily E Hoar 46 b IOW Brading Rose E Hoar 26 b IOW Sandown Bessie F M Hoar 19 b IOW Sandown Bertram H Hoar 6 b Croydon George W Burt 22 Boarder b IOW Sandown
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2 Dec 2009 16:39 |
Same Stephen with wife in 1881?
Name: Stephen Hoar Age: 26 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emily E. Gender: Male Where born: St Lawrence, Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Brading County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address: 2 Rokeby Cotg Condition as to marriage: Married Education:
Employment status: View image Occupation: House Painter Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 30 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Stephen Hoar 26 Emily E. Hoar 24 Rose E. Hoar 6 Stephen R. Hoar 3 Ada Jones 12
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LondonBelle
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2 Dec 2009 16:41 |
1891 census? Name: Stephen Hoar Age: 36 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emily Gender: Male Where born: Isle of Wight, St Lawrence Civil parish: Croydon Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Croydon County/Island: Surrey Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status: View image Registration district: Croydon Sub-registration district: Croydon ED, institution, or vessel: 23 Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age Stephen Hoar 36 Emily Hoar 34 Rose Hoar 16 Bessie Hoar 7
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2 Dec 2009 16:41 |
As Janey says - what information are you looking for please?
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LondonBelle
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2 Dec 2009 16:41 |
1861 census?
Name: Stephen Hoar Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1855 Relation: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Betsey Gender: Male Where born: St Luerann, Hampshire, England Civil parish: Brading Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch Town: Sandown County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Isle Of Wight Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 91 Household Members: Name Age Robert Hoar 44 b Saltash Cornwall occ Coast Guard Service Betsey Hoar 45 b Saltash Cornwall Robert Hoar 14 b Shanklin Nicholis Hoar 13 b Shanklin Maryan Hoar 11b Shanklin Thomas Hoar 9 b Shaklin Stephen Hoar 6 b St Lawrence Margret Hoar 4 b St Lawrence
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2 Dec 2009 16:45 |
1911
HOUSEHOLD HOAR STEPHEN M 1855 56 Croydon Surrey
living with
HOUSEHOLD HOAR BERTRAM M 1895 16 Croydon Surrey HOUSEHOLD HOAR BESSIE F 1884 27 Croydon Surrey HOUSEHOLD HOAR EMILY F 1856 55 Croydon Surrey
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2 Dec 2009 16:45 |
Thought I'd throw in these too
Name: Stephen Hoar Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1854 Christening Date: 30 Apr 1854 Christening Place: St Lawrence, Hampshire, England Father's Name: Robert Hoar Mother's Name: Betsey
England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2005 about Stephen Hoar Name: Stephen Hoar Death Registration Month/Year: Q2-Apr-May-Jun 1944 Age at death (estimated): 90 Registration district: Croydon Inferred County: Surrey Volume: 2a Page: 854
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Maria
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2 Dec 2009 17:12 |
Thank you Yes that is his family on isle of wight but cenus 1901 did not give me marriage details and his family I would not be asking if i knew Thanks some of you gave me details i have.nt got
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JaneyCanuck
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2 Dec 2009 17:13 |
Anyhow, the reason I was interested.
My grx2 grandfather, baptised Francis Hoar Hill, had a brother named Stephen Hoare Hill, born 1822. Father James Hill, mother Ann -- and I have always assumed she was Ann Hoar(e). I know nothing more about James and Ann, or their son Stephen. The two sons were baptised in Tamerton Foliatt, Devon (Devonport). That part of Devon and the bit of Cornwall adjoining it were somewhat interchangeable, and people moved back and forth. I think my Hills, and Hoar(e)s, if such they are, were likely from Cornwall, possibly the Saltash area.
Francis Hoar(e) Hill married (or not) Sarah Emma Bond of St Stephens by Saltash, Cornwall. In 1851, Francis and Sarah were living in Linkinhorne, Cornwall, in a cottage that seems to be adjacent to a farm owned by a Hoar family. I have surmised that the (deceased) father of that family may have been an uncle of Francis.
Your Stephen's father, in 1871:
Name: Robert Hoar Age: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1817 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Betsey Gender: Male >> Where born: Suttash, Cornwall, England
Robert Hoar 54 Betsey Hoar 55 Nicholas Hoar 23 Louisa Hoar 24 Mary A Newbery 22 Thomas Hoar 19 Stephen Hoar 17 Margrate Hoar 14 Rosena Hoar 11 months James Hoar 3 months
>> Saltash, Cornwall.
I'm not seeing Robert in 51 or 61 - someone else may have done that by the time I'm finished here. ;)
But I wonder whether this is him in 41:
Name: Robert Hoar Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1806 Where born: Cornwall, England Civil parish: St Mawgan (in Pyder) County/Island: Cornwall Registration district: St Columb Major
Robert Hoar 35 Nicholas Hoar 1
Which might make Betsey his second wife.
--- edit, see page 2 --- the above is the wrong Robert; I think these are your Stephen's parents in 1841:
Civil parish: St Stephen By Saltash Registration district: St Germans
Robert Hoare 20 - Navy Betsey Hoare 20 John Hoare 2 James Greet 40
"My" Hoars on the farm in Linkinhorne seem to have come originally from the Linkinhorne area, relocated to St Columb for a generation, and then moved back. In 1861 the family includes children born in both St Columb and Linkinhorne.
My theory is that "my" Ann Hoar married James Hill in St Columb Minor in 1817. A John Hoare married Grace Blowey in St Sampson, Golant (where Grace Hore in 1861 was born), 17 Feb 1820, and I think they are the couple with the farm in Linkinhorne. In 1841, they are:
John Hoar 50 (deceased by 1851) Grace Hoar 40 Grace Hoar 18 William Hoar 15 Jane Hoar 14 Catherine Hoar 12 John Hoar 10 Ruben Hoar 7 David Hoar 4 Samuel Hoar 2 Joshua Hoar 2weeks
I had delved into these people in great detail back when familyhistoryonline had complete Cornwall census records readily available. Those records have now gone to FMP to which I don't have access. I'm not sure how many of them I printed off (and didn't recycle, thinking they would always be easily accessible). I would have to shuffle through piles of paper to find what I kept.
Now, it isn't like Hoar(e)s aren't a dime a dozen in Cornwall.
In 1841 there are a couple of dozen in St Stephen by Saltash, variously spelled Hore and Hoare. (The spelling was completely interchangeable at the time.) An Ancestry user has corrected the name from HONE in one household, and could be contacted through that system - although that head of household seems to come from Scotland.
All this in response to that vague question ... but you never know, we might be cousins. ;)
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JaneyCanuck
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2 Dec 2009 17:14 |
Have you looked on FreeBMD for the marriage??
You'll find it in about 3 seconds!
http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl
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AnnCardiff
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2 Dec 2009 17:22 |
a family reunion!!!!!! I'm filling up here!!!
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LondonBelle
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2 Dec 2009 17:24 |
This is their marriage....it didn't seem to come up for me under Hoar
Marriages Sep 1876
HOAR Stephen I Wight 2b 953 Jones Emily Elizabeth I. Wight 2b 953
This fits in nicely with the 1881 census in which Ada Jones is listed as Sister in Law
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JaneyCanuck
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2 Dec 2009 17:26 |
It came up for me in three seconds, Stephen Hoar + Emily.
Couldn't see any reason for Maria not to look herself!
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Maria
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2 Dec 2009 17:41 |
hi As you say Hoar is not that common name. I came across a Rodert Nicholas Hoarb Sept 1850 in Saltash and died 1904 in Newton Abbot. He was a customs officer married twice to Ann Sinclair and a Margaret Mercer. I thought he might be connected as Robert and Nicholas are family namesHe was in County Durham in 1891 any help or clues?
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MargaretM
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2 Dec 2009 19:16 |
A good site here for Isle of Wight records:
http://www.isle-of-wight-fhs.co.uk/bmd/startbmd.htm
They have Stephen Hoar born 1854, Godshill. Two names for mother, Clines or Elines.
It also has the marriage to Emily E. Jones, 1876.
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MargaretM
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2 Dec 2009 19:23 |
Also possible siblings from Isle of Wight site:
HOAR, Robert, Stephen 1846 ELINES Ryde R7/P40
HOAR, Nicholas, Edward 1848 ELMES Ryde R8/P30
HOAR, Thomas, Richard 1852 ELMES Ryde R11/P70
HOAR, Margaret, Elizabeth 1857 ELMES Godshill G10/P25
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