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Hi Dee

There was an inquest into his death:

Surname: WEBSTER
Given Names: Leonard Owen
Year: 1975
Reference: 1360
Inq Date: 1975-3-17

But unfortunately it doesn't give a cause of death. At least you have an inquest date, though of course his death could have been many weeks prior.

Sorry I can't offer more on this couple.

Cheers
Cherilyn

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Happy New Year!
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Happy new year Cherilyn from a very dreary and grey England.

Is it possible to find out anyhting more about this man who is on Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923 on Ancestry.

Name: Valentine Wallace
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Age: 30
Arrival Date: Dec 1854
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Liverpool
Ship: Sultana
Nationality: English


My Valentine Wallis/Wallace disappeared c 1851/2. He married in 1847 to Mary Ann Deardon in Huddersfield Yorkshire. I have tracked her down to Leeds, Yorks in 1881 and 1891 and her death in 1898.

In 1881 she says she is married but I have never been able to find Valentine either alive or dead till I upgraded at Christmas and found the entry above. He would have been a couple of years older than the stated age and his occupation in Huddersfield was Stone Mason

Regards and thanks for your help, Jennifer

Hi Jennifer, from a very hot Australia (the 40C part in the West, not the part that is currently flooded in the East)

Hm Valentine arrived with a Mrs Wallace aged 28, no given name dammit (why is it that the wives first names were not considered important?!)

There is a death in Ballarat in 1891 of a Valentine WALLACE, aged 65, which makes him born c1826 - seems to fit? Parent 'unknown', sadly. And can't see any chn born to them after 1855, which would have helped find who his wife was...grr.

Let me check Ballarat cemetery...

Okay he was buried at Ballarat New Cemetery on 26/6/1891. It says 'Open Ground, Not Known' for the location. More brick walls!

There may be clues on his death cert, but this would only be as good as the informant's knowledge. It is possible he and 'Mrs' Wallace were not actually married as well!

Go to https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage to order a pdf download of the certificate, I think it is A$17.50. The registration number is 4726.

Hope it is him! :)

Cherilyn thanks so much for all that, he has been bugging me for ages. If it is him then he left his legal wife behind in Huddersfield (unless she came back on her own but I doubt it).

I agree about female names and also occupations. I know that many of mine had jobs but they are never mentioned on marriage certs.

We have seen the floods in east Australia on the TV here, they look very devastating.

Don't think I could put up with 40c, too hot for me.

Thanks and regards Jennifer

My pleasure. Highly likley he came to Victoria for the goldrush. But highly unlikely he made his fortune from it!

Yes I saw on the news today that the area now under flood (up to 9 metres high, expected to get up to 9.4m) is the size of France & Germany combined! Certainly puts it in perspective.

And 40c is too hot for me too!!!

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Hi Cherilyn,

I wonder if you could give anymore details on this couple coming to Australia please?

Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about James Wilson
Name: James Wilson
Estimated birth year: abt 1831
Age: 36
Arrival Date: 17 Aug 1867
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Gravesend
Ship: Lincolnshire
Nationality: English


Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839–1923
about Anne Wilson
Name: Anne Wilson
Estimated birth year: abt 1841
Age: 26
Arrival Date: 17 Aug 1867
Arrival Port: Melbourne, Australia
Departure Port: Gravesend
Ship: Lincolnshire
Nationality: English



Many thanks for any help,


Dee x

Hi Dee

Not sure what information you are seeking? Can't tell you more than you have without more info.

Do you know her maiden name?

Cherilyn

You are a star :o)

Thank you so much for your help

Sue x

Please Cherilyn........when you have time ....... can you help Derek find info on his g/Uncle James Wilkins b1883 Leyland (parents George & Anne). He came to 'Aus' 1907 ....married ' Aunty Nye' (sorry!!) and had dau 'Lorna Wilkins' c1925. Please can you help me- to help Derek!
(no idea which State or other info).
Valerie (WAus)

Hi Valerie

Possible immigration from findmypast? He was travelling with other WILKINS'. I don't have full access to tell you who though, sorry, but looks like Mr T Wilkins b. 1855 and female M Wilkins b. 187,. i.e. not his parents.

WILKINS J 1884 M 1905 London Australia Sydney

2 possible marriages in Sydney?:
11788/1909 WILKINS JAMES RAYNER SARAH MUDGEE
5002/1916 WILKINS JAMES MACNEVIN AILEEN SYDNEY

No matching deaths found.

There is a birth for Lorna M WILKINS in 1926 in Perth, reg 3187. But from her engagement notice in 1950 she was the daughter of Mr & Mrs G E M Wilkins of Carlisle.

Sorry I can't offer more.

thank you very much Cherilyn- you certainly have beenn busy for us - much appreciated. Will pass this on ...... Valerie (WA)

Morning Cherilyn, I have just downloaded the Death Cert for Valentine Wallace (except for the payment it was a vey painless experience). Wish they were so quick over here.

I am convinced it is my Valentine as it gives his occupation as Stone Mason, born Yorkshire and been in Australia 37 yrs. unfortunately no personal info about father or wife, but does say he was married.

I do know his original wife was in England in April 1891 (census) and I suspect she was back by 1881, that is if she went at all! Though I have never been able to find her in 1861 or 71. So maybe she did go but got fed up and came home.

Anyway thanks and glad I have found him as he was the last of that family I had to track down

Regards Jennifer

Good ending to the story, thanks for letting me know, Jennifer :)

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