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Thomas Sutton born 1789 Thorney Cambridgeshire

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Renes

Renes Report 3 Sep 2010 12:38

Chris

Thanks - so I presume Annette is looking at CDs

thought she was looking at Parish registers on line


Irene in Spain

Julia

Julia Report 3 Sep 2010 12:58

Irene, that was my same thought. No wonder I can't find the Turners I am looking for.
Julia in Derbyshire

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 3 Sep 2010 15:07

Sorry Folks, didn't mean to confuse! :-))
The only Parish Records online are on CFHS online Database, Baptisms and Burials, 1801 - 1837. some Parishes are on Find my Past BMD's, but not all.

I'm not familiar with Thorney, Eye, Peterborough area, but can see how it seems to stretch over the different Counties, with it's location, Huntingdonshire nearby too, not an easy one! :-)) Fenland I call it, lol.


www.cfhs.org.uk/Search.html
(link for online Database.

Chris :)





moonbi

moonbi Report 4 Sep 2010 02:02

Hi to every one,
here I am again after a long week with school productions etc
Its saturday, and the rain has set in again
Supposed to be the start of spring and we have flood warnings today.!
so, so sorry to confuse you all by not stating my sources.
the number one error for all historians. I know you cant read my mind, so I dont know why I omitted it.
So here I go at trying to correct my mistake

I have not got any CD of parish records
so
using the words Eye and Peterbro' district
I have been looking in Pilot search, yes it is online.
found this reference in another thread and decided to check it out.

pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start
this is where the, batch no and volume/ page numbers, I got are from.
I was doing this to find who was connected to who, and I began to like the way it is set out, quite easy to decifer.
Then I went back to
free reg.org.uk
to check for the marriages of my ggg fathers siblings, and found out that one can click on the highlighted page number and people on the same page come up.
Then I used this same idea in the deaths, and then births, and found Rebecca and Susannah.

The helps info then suggests that a cross check be done against the various census to confirm the marriage partners, families.
and that's where I'm up to today.

so lately the main sources I am using are:
Online
1.Free bmd.org.uk
(freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search/pl)

2. Free reg.org.uk
3. Family search IGI
and children of the same parents facility
4. Pilot family search
5. Genesreunited census records
6. parloc.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk (which clarified parishes within radius of a location)

I did check out "find my past" but didn't find anything extra that was useful to me.

Hard copies
PDF Info on the family tree sent from Torney Heritage museum in UK
PDF Family tree info sent from a Sutton family member in QLD Australia; similar details as THorney listed. confirming most connections.

I'm still waiting for a reply to my request from Marilyn Ponting of Northants, but it did say it might be about 2-3 weeks before I got a reply.
Chris, thanks for looking in Cambridge records office, thomas is in the Eye St Matthews parish church records

regards from Annette



Renes

Renes Report 5 Sep 2010 11:16

Annette

Thanks for info re Pilot search - I had not realised that you could put the village name in front of the county - so had been trolling thru all cambs - for Coates and Whittlesey - Thorney and Eye

Well found


Irene

Julia

Julia Report 5 Sep 2010 11:24

Irene, Good Morning, some of my Turners are from Whittlesey, Thorney and Eye. Not sure about the Coates bit. Whittlesey since 1824 ish, and Thorney and Eye before.
If that helps
Julia in Derbyshire

moonbi

moonbi Report 6 Sep 2010 04:00

morning all,
I have been sifting through the census records and found my ggg father's sister Mary born 1821 in the 1841 census.
she was age 20 and at "High Drove" Borough Fen.
and I also see Ellen Briggs age 15 years FL Ellen was to become Mary's sister in law, as Ellen married Peter Sutton in 1850
{ it was Peter and Ellen who came to Australia}

I see on my "old map" Borough Fen area is north of Newborough.
but where was High Drove located within this area.
The census image shows 25 people of varying ages all living at the same residence.
There are AG Labs, FL and ML, 2 farmers and a schoolmaster and his family.
It must have been an interesting place
But cant seem to find other references to this property, or who owned it.
My guess is that the 2 farmers were tenant farmers.
any ideas?

Annette

Renes

Renes Report 6 Sep 2010 16:46

Julia

My Turners were all in Dorset - and are still there - as far as I know

My Turner married a Palmer - also from Dorset - and the majority of them are still there

I am looking for Read - Setchfield ( he was the blacksmith in Coates ) Rudkin ( who came in from Castle Byham and Bourne ) Fox - who drifted in from Manea and a few Cole - Thulborn - from Chatteris and in and out of Thorney

Mixture really - all roaming around the Fens working on the farms

All a mixture - of my odd and ends

Take care

Irene

moonbi

moonbi Report 7 Sep 2010 02:31

Irene
re pilot search.
if a village or town name is not in the drop down box
then
you will still have to do the sifting process.

I did notice that a few extra town names have been added recently
I only wish Thorney was one of them.
annette

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Sep 2010 06:16

hi Irene

You have the Palmer name in your tree? yes?

have just realised that a Charlotte Palmer married David Sutton. they lived around Newborough and are buried in Newborough. also their son Richard Palmer Sutton baptised 28 March 1864 and daughter Charlotte bap. 19 October 1856 and another son David bap.18 Dec 1859.

are these related to you?
annette

Julia

Julia Report 8 Sep 2010 07:56

Moonbi, Good Morning, re Charlotte Palmer. I contacted someone on here through Search Trees, and asked if the Charlotte Palmer they had in their tree married your David Sutton. The answer I received was "Yes, she did". Some answer. I PM'd back asking her to take this statement further, but zilch, no answer.
Sorry, will try harder for you
Julia in Derbyshire


Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Sep 2010 08:01

Ladies and Gents, I used to live in this area in both Whittlesey and coates and my childrens family were form this area through their fathers tree. There are also links to Thorney/Newborough/Eye and Crowland. If anyone would like me to answer any local info on that area please shout. Im not there anymore but lived in that area for about 15 years so ask away!!!

Julia

Julia Report 8 Sep 2010 08:14

Good Morning Rachel, I am sure both Moonbi and myself will inundate you with questions. I will come back to you later today, when I have got my brain into gear,and take you up on your marvellous and generous offer.
Many,many thanks, I cannot thank you enough.
Julia in Derbyshire

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Sep 2010 08:25

I also have family in this area still who maybe able to help and have several family names from this area on my tree. I also lived in the Bourne/market Deeping/Deeping St James area too.

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Sep 2010 09:03

Rebecca

Welcome to my thread.
How marvellous that you still have connections in the area.
If you read from the beginning, which I'm sure you already have, then you can see just who and what we are looking for.

Id like to know if your folk have any knowledge about whether Thomas Sutton, born 1789 in Thorney is a brother to one William Sutton baptised 08 Nov 1785. William being the son of James Sutton and Mary Hewles of Thorney.

EDIT: Thomas 1759 is uncle to William 1785 who is son of James b 1757

William was the schoolmaster and also the parish clerk in EYE until 1861
Both William and Thomas's families lived in Eye.
If anyone knew of them being brothers then that would be my missing link.
I know that David who married Charlotte Palmer of Pinton was Thomas Sutton's son and was born in 1832
and David's family resided Low Fen Road and later in Soke Road, Newborough area.
David's son Richard Palmer Sutton in the 1901 census his occupation is mole catcher.

Regards from Annette

moonbi

moonbi Report 8 Sep 2010 13:09

im going off line now as its late in Aus.
check in again tomorrow
Annette

Julia

Julia Report 8 Sep 2010 13:23

Please forgive Rebecca, in my haste to reply, I called you Rachel
My most profound apologies
Julia in Derbyshire

Rebecca

Rebecca Report 8 Sep 2010 16:37

No prob Julia, its funny, when i was born my father went around telling everyone i was called Rachel, he was only 17, bless him!!!! Since then a lot of people have called me Rachel by mistake!

moonbi

moonbi Report 9 Sep 2010 04:56

julia
turners in Eye

Familysearch.org
IGI batch no 1013348
records numbers 365 to 368

and batch no 1013349

both batches refer to records in Eye
could be some names for you?
annette

moonbi

moonbi Report 9 Sep 2010 12:40

julia,

go into Familysearch .org
on the top bar click on 'search records' without scrolling down
it takes you to various options in the left column
choose IGI
takes you to a page with boxes to fill in.
Type in Turner in the "Last name" box
and type in the name Jane in the forename box
put 1822 in the year box
Choose region British Isles for the region, England for the country and Northampton in the county box

then hit the search button.
Jane's record will come up.
Click on her underlined name and an IGI individual record will show/
bottom left hand corner click on the batch number
and you will be taken back to the first entry page.
******dont worry its alright.
just click on the search button again
and wow
lots of names come up in alphabetical order
and one sees they all come from EYE
there are lots of pages so when you get to the bottom of each page click "next"
and thats how you work through the names from A to Z
Turner names Ann, Jane, Mary Ann and John appear as record numbers 365 to 368

really hope this procedure can get you sorted
Annette