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Further help PLEASE with marriages

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Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 15:13

Could I have a BMD look up please for

daniel Simon born 1915c Manchester
his wife
Mirian Garber born about 1915 Manchester They had a son in 1938 so their marriage would have been before then

Morris Sylvester 1912c Manchester
his wife
Muriel Lukes 1912c Manchester
they had a twin girls born 1947 I think their might have been a brother??

My daughter has married into this family and just had a daughter so I'm looking to TRY and do a tree for her
They used to live in the Prestwich area of Manchester in about 1985 and the name Sylvester came from Schlesinger, but don't know when

any help would be appreciated to get me on my way

Flick

Flick Report 7 Sep 2011 15:22

All UK bmd's are on the Civil Register (GRO)

Look for them on freebmd

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/

Flick

Flick Report 7 Sep 2011 15:23

Proof.............

Births Dec 1913 (>99%)
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GARBER Miriam Bayarsky Prestwich 8d 554


Bayarsky is the MMN............

Four further children listed on freebmd

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Sep 2011 15:29

Miriam Garber
England and Wales Census, 1911

birth: Russia
residence: 1911 —North Manchester, Cheetham, Lancashire, England
census: 1911 —North Manchester, Cheetham, Lancashire, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1911
name: Miriam Garber
event: Census
event date: 1911
gender: Female
age: 17
birthplace: Russia
record type: Household
registration district: Prestwich
sub-district: Cheetham
parish: North Manchester
county:

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 15:29

thanks flick

that's a start my son in law doesn't think I'll do it but I knew with the help of people like you on here I'd find something out

I'll try Free bmd I usually do but not knowing if the Jewish comunity had their own way

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 7 Sep 2011 15:30

Miriam was born in Russia

Flick

Flick Report 7 Sep 2011 15:31

Re-think needed on geography for some of them

Marriages Jun 1946 (>99%)
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Lukes Muriel Sylvester Newcastle T. 10b 393

Births Sep 1920 (>99%)
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Lukes Muriel Hyman Newcastle T 10b 151


People of the Jewish faith do not get baptised in C of E Churches

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 7 Sep 2011 15:38

Daniel Simon b 1914 Apr Q Manchester MMS Silverman 8d 491
Married Miriam Garber 1937 Sep Q Manchester North 8d 1813

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 15:40

Thank you

I did see that birth for Muriel Lukes but was unsure but as you have found the marriage thank you

Russia is interesting my daughter thought they came from Polland, Having just attended my granddaughters naming I do realise their not "Baptised" as such

A little confused are we talking about the same Miriam Garber birth 1913 and the miriam in the 1911 census ??

GillianMac

GillianMac Report 7 Sep 2011 15:58

Daniels parents?
Robert Simon m Sarah Silverman 1912 Dec Q Merthyr Tydfil 11a 1653

The Sylvester twins were Anne G and Jennifer J b1847 Manchester

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 16:20

Yes Gillian?

That's the right family

Where did you get that from I've tried familysearch /freebmd ?? am I doing something wrong

Helen

Helen Report 7 Sep 2011 16:21

RG14PN32504 RG78PN1857 RD590 SD4 ED25 SN294

Reg. District: Merthyr Tydfil Sub District: Aberdare
Parish: Aberdare Enum. District: 25
Address: 10 Griffiths Street Aberdare
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born


SILVERMAN, Max Head Widow Er M 53 1858 Glazier Etc Russia English Resident
SILVERMAN, Reuben Son Single M 25 1886 Picture Framer Assistant Russia English Resident
SILVERMAN, Sarah Daughter Single F 22 1889 Aberdare Glam
SILVERMAN, Annie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Aberdare Glam
SILVERMAN, Bessie Daughter Single F 18 1893 Aberdare Glam
SILVERMAN, Solomon Son Single M 16 1895 Assistant Aberdare Glam

Helen

Helen Report 7 Sep 2011 16:22

1901 Wales Census about Toba Silverman
Name: Toba Silverman
Age in 1901: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1861
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: Max Silverman
Gender: Female
Where born: Rus Foreign Subject

Civil parish: Aberdare
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales

Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image

Registration district: Merthyr Tydfil
Sub-registration district: Aberdare
ED, institution, or vessel: 26
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 186
Piece: 5036
Folio: 105
Page Number: 33
Household Members:
Name Age
Max Silverman 42
Toba Silverman 40
Reuben Silverman 16
Sarah Silverman 14
Annie Silverman 9
Bessie Silverman 9
Solomon Silverman 7

View Original Image

Helen

Helen Report 7 Sep 2011 16:29

RG14PN32394 RG78PN1853B RD589 SD4 ED66 SN343

Reg. District: Pontypridd Sub District: Rhondda
Parish: Rhondda Enum. District: 66
Address: 103 Dyffryn St Ferndale
County: Glamorganshire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born


SIMON, Robert Head Single M 25 1886 Fancy Proper Derbjan Russia
SIMON, Morris Boarder Single M 17 1894 Pedler Derbjan Europe Russia

A possible

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 16:31

THank you

That's the right family I was only guessing on Manchester as that's where my daughters in laws lived and I know the grandparents lived but proven wrong as to where they were from

Where did you get this from as i'VE TRIED the freebmd and familysearch

Helen

Helen Report 7 Sep 2011 16:49

Name: BAYARSKY, Rebecca
Registration District: Help Manchester
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume No: Help 8D
Page No: Help 338

Henry garber

RG14PN24187 RG78PN1388 RD467 SD1 ED17 SN107

Reg. District: Prestwich Sub District: Cheetham
Parish: North Manchester Enum. District: 17
Address: 22 Cheetham St Cheetham Manchester
County: Lancashire
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born


GARBER, Henry Head Married M 24 1887 Waterproofers Russia Resident
GARBER, Rebecca Wife Married F 24 1887 Russia Resident
GARBER, Bela Daughter F 0 (3 MONTHS) 1911 Manchester Lancashire

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 17:18

wow HELEN

Fantastic it'll take a bit of sinking in but that's really good thank you so much for your time and trouble

Is their any way of finding out if their was any siblings for Bela

Helen

Helen Report 7 Sep 2011 17:53

Miriam Garber Oct-Nov-Dec 1913 Prestwich Lancashire

Jenny Garber Oct-Nov-Dec 1915 Prestwich Lancashire

Seaual M Garber Oct-Nov-Dec 1918 Frestwich Lancashire

Esther Garber Apr-May-Jun 1926 Manchester North Lancashire

Helen

Helen Report 7 Sep 2011 17:55

GARBER, Bella
Registration District: Help Prestwich
County: Lancashire
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: Help 8D
Page No: Help 282

Sylann

Sylann Report 7 Sep 2011 18:01

THANKS AGAIN HELEN

WHICH SITE IS ALL THIS ON

My daughter has just come in and she is so curious about her inlaws background now that I've been able to give her some info, infact more so than her own side