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John Richard Goodwin Brewer

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George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 01:10

Could anyone help me Please. I've been given a Royal Navy Certificate of Service For John Richard Goodwin Brewer b 9 August 1908 Could anyone let me know who is father is or were he was born or his wife. Anything its driving me nuts
Thank You

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 9 Jul 2012 01:25

from google search.....

Brewer, John Richard Goodwin - H.M. Trawler Fifeshire

George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 01:27

Thanks cupcake anymore info please

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 9 Jul 2012 01:30

birth...


Births Sep 1908

Brewer John Richard G Fylde 8e 692

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 9 Jul 2012 01:33

Brewer, John Richard Goodwin

Cemetery: Lowestoft Naval Memorial
Country: England
Area: Suffolk
Rank: Seaman Cook
Official Number: LT/JX 165972
Unit: H.M. Trawler Fifeshire.
Force: Royal Navy
Nationality: British
Details:20th February 1940. Panel 4 Column 2.

cupcakes

cupcakes Report 9 Jul 2012 01:34

Hi George...

google search....Brewer, John Richard Goodwin - H.M. Trawler Fifeshire

and you will find his name on a memorial, if you can't find it let me know and

I will pm it to you.

Helen.

EDIT..have sent it pm just in case!

George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 01:55

Thanks a lot Cupcakes Iwas just looking and writing that down Horndean is not far from me (Havant) i will go and have a look out of curiocity
Thanks.

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jul 2012 11:01

This info also - from cwgc site:

BREWER, JOHN RICHARD GOODWIN
Rank:Seaman Cook
Service No:LT/JX 165972
Date of Death:20/02/1940
Regiment/Service: Royal Naval Patrol Service
H.M. Trawler Fifeshire.
Panel ReferencePanel 4, Column 2.
MemorialLOWESTOFT NAVAL MEMORIAL
Additional Information:


LOWESTOFT NAVAL MEMORIAL

Country:United Kingdom
Locality:Suffolk
Identified Casualties:2397
See casualty records
Location at Google Maps
Location Information
The Naval Memorial is located to the north of the town alongside the A12 Yarmouth Road, approximately one mile north of the harbour.

The memorial is in a prominent position within a local authority gardens, known as Bellevue Park. The park is on the top of the cliffs and the memorial itself is on the edge of the cliff so providing an unobscured view of the foreshore and sea.

Commemorating almost 2,400 men of the Royal Naval Patrol Services who have no grave but the sea, the memorial consists of a fluted column rising from a circular base 12 metres in diameter surmounted by a bronze ship device (Lymphad), the uppermost point of which is over 15 metres from the ground level. Around the circular base are arranged bronze panels that bear the names. The panels are set in recesses and protected from the weather by a cornice.

A Portland stone panel at the front of the Memorial, flanked on either side by the Naval Crown with wreath and foul anchor, faces towards the sea.




Visiting Information
Car parking in the area is restricted and it is best to park in North Parade and enter Bellevue Park by way of the footbridge.

A copy of the Memorial Register is held at The Royal Naval Patrol Service Museum which is located a short distance from the memorial itself.

Another copy of the Memorial Register is kept at the Town Hall reception and is available to view during office hours: 09:00 to 16:30 Mondays to Fridays (closed on Bank Holidays).



Historical Information
The Depot for the Royal Naval Patrol Service, developed from the pre-war Royal Naval Reserve Trawler Section was at Lowestoft during the 1939-1945 War. At the outset of the war the men of this service were mainly the fishermen of the requisitioned trawlers and drifters used on patrol work, but later it included men from all walks of life and various types of small craft. In the spring of 1944 the Royal Naval Patrol Service reached its maximum strength of some 57,000.

Between 1942 and 1946 new construction ships and craft manned by the Service totalled 1,637, among them minesweepers of various kinds, corvettes, fuel carriers, motor launches and naval seaplane tenders. Their objective was to maintain wartime patrols and safeguard the coasts of Britain.
Lowestoft was chosen as the site for the Memorial to those men of the Royal Naval Patrol Service who have no other grave than the sea.

Dea x

Marked As Answer Marked as Answered

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jul 2012 11:08

Birth 1908:

BREWER John Richard Goodwin Blackpool A Blackpool MORRIS BLKA/41/1

His parents' marriage:

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1908
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
BREWER John MORRIS Susan Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/42/12

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jul 2012 11:09

This is him on 1911:

BREWER, Susan Wife Married 3 years F 25 1886 Lane Blackpool
BREWER, John Son M 2 1909 Lane Blackpool

RG number: RG14
Piece: 28641
Reference: RG14PN28641 RG78PN1646 RD521 SD4 ED31 SN125
Registration District: Sculcoates
Sub District: Hessle
Enumeration District: 31
Parish: Sculcoates
Address: 9 Elm Avenue Liverpool St Hull
County: Yorkshire (East riding)


Husband John was 'at sea'

Dea x

Gins

Gins Report 9 Jul 2012 11:29

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
Name: Susan Churchman D Morris
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1885
Registration district: Fylde
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 714

England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Susan M C R D Brewer
Birth Date: abt 1886
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1939
Age at Death: 53
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire East Riding
Volume: 9d
Page: 401


Looks like his mom but you need the certs to prove it

Gins

Gins Report 9 Jul 2012 11:41

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1875
Surname Forename(s) Sub-District Registers At Mother's Maiden Name

MORRIS Joshua Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool DRUMMOND PLF/32/75


MORRIS Susan Churchman Drummond Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool DRUMMOND PLF/48/


There are other siblings and you can search here for free



http://www.lancashirebmd.org.uk/cgi/birthind.cgi


Parents marriage for Sus*



Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1868
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office

MORRIS William Henry DRUMMOND Elizabeth Blackpool, St.John Blackpool D/1/332

Dea

Dea Report 9 Jul 2012 21:01

bumped up for George !!

Dea Xxx

George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 23:39

This is absolutely "Brilliant" stuff. "Thank You Very Much" For your time and Interest.


Thank You Dea, Gins and Cupcakes

George

George Report 9 Jul 2012 23:55

If you are Bored Would you like to Look Up his brothers. He was born Blackpool next one I know of was Edinburough The rest I believe Hull. That what was giving me the headache. i was led to believe we were all Hull.

Thanks again

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 08:18

These are all 'possible' births from FreeBMD site.


Births Sep 1911
BREWER William H Morris Sculcoates 9d 288


Births Mar 1914
BREWER George W Morris Sculcoates 9d 278 ***
BREWER Leslie Morris Sculcoates 9d 277 ***


Births Jun 1915
BREWER George E Morris Sculcoates 9d 309


Births Dec 1919
Brewer Lewis S Morris Sculcoates 9d 309

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It is 'possible' that the two in 1914 were twins - Twins will normally be recorded on the same page + reference number and these are not, but they are on consecutive pages so one may have been the last entry and the next at the top of the following page?

However, it DOES lead us to beware though because if they were not twins it means that there was another Brewer/Morris couple having children in the same area around the same time so the children may not necessarily be the ones you want.

What else do you need to know?

Please keep any further questions on this family to this same thread so as to avoid duplication of research.

Thanks,

Dea x

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 09:28

George,

I am still working on this but have a slight 'quandry' !! :-(

I have found a PERFECT candidate for your' John's father!

I have followed him backwards and forwards and everything seems to fit BUT, his middle name is ' GOODRIDGE'.

I will come back with all the details if I can find some 'proof', but I DO think it is him......... SO frustrating !!! :-(

Dea Xxx

Dea

Dea Report 10 Jul 2012 09:37

What you REALLY need is a copy of that marriage cert for John and Susan to see if his father is given as 'William', a fisherman, then all will link up beautifully.

Dea Xxx

Gins

Gins Report 10 Jul 2012 09:41

BREWER, GEORGE E.
Rank:Sailor
Date of Death:01/10/1940
Age:25
Regiment/Service:Merchant Navy
S.S. Empire Success (London).
Grave ReferenceCompt. 198. Grave 32.
CemeteryHULL NORTHERN CEMETERY
Additional Information:
Son of John Richard and Susan Brewer, of Hull; husband of Madge Brewer, of Hull.


Marriages Jun 1940
----------------------------------------------------
Bodecott Madge Brewer Hull 9d 750
Brewer George E Bodecott Hull 9d 750


So sad for the parents losing two sons and then poor Madge lost her husband soon after marriage and she had a daughter registered the same quarter as the marriage


England & Wales, Death Index: 1916-2006
Name: Madge Brewer
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1916
Date of Registration: Jul 2005
Age at Death: 88
Registration district: Hull
Inferred County: Yorkshire
Register Number: A72A
District and Subdistrict: 550/1A
Entry number: 210

http://www.iannounce.co.uk/North-East-England/28?_fstatus=search;keywords=Madge%20BREWER



The daughter for the couple (I think its the daughter) is on 192.com. It looks like Madge had a son registered in Jan/March 1941

Reggie

Reggie Report 10 Jul 2012 10:16

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards.page/board/ancestors/thread/1303638