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Harry Partridge dob 1878? died 1976

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patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 10:56

So William Percy G Course (1886) stays in London with his Mother Annie, so needs finding in 1891.
Annie marriages Mr Partridge?
As Harry Partridge is born in 1878, he is not a son of Annie but of Mr Partridge and a previous wife?

Annie's first wedding:
Marriages Sep 1875
COURSE Albert Cambridge 3b 835
TURNER Anne Cambridge 3b 835

so does Annie then marry Mr Herniman and then Mr Partridge (1897)?

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 11:21

Annie Partridge and William Percy Course
1911 census
Name: Annie Partridge
Age in 1911: 55 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female
Birth Place: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Hove County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Street Address: 22 Westbourne Gdns Hove Sussex
Marital Status: Widowed
Registration district: Steyning Registration District Number: 80 Sub-registration district: Hove
ED, institution, or vessel: 25 Household schedule number: 196 Piece: 5199
Annie Partridge 55 married 34 years 8 children 7 living.
Percy Comes 25 son grocer's assistant Kings Cross
Clifford Roberts 63
Mabel Mead 14
Margaret Bridge Mignon 72
Source Citation: Class: RG14; Piece: 5199; Schedule Number: 196.

If married 34 years, then married in 1876 to 1877, which could be bad arithmetic for her first marriage in Cambridge.

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 11:27

1901 England Census
Name: Anne Partridge Age: 45 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John Partridge
Mother's name: Anne Turner
Gender: Female Where born: Islington, London, England
Civil parish: Aldrington Ecclesiastical parish: St Leonard
County/Island: Sussex Country: England
Registration district: Steyning Sub-registration district: Shoreham
ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Household schedule number: 190 Piece: 939 Folio: 91 Page Number: 26
John Partridge 49 coachman Eastnor Hereford
Anne Partridge 45
Percy Partridge 15
Henry Partridge 13
Anne Turner 71 mother-in-law widowed St Andrews, London,
Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 939; Folio: 91; Page: 26.

There is another John and Annie on the censuses, but my ancestry has just shut down so will have to stop for now.

Graham

Graham Report 10 Mar 2013 11:42

as i believe from
1891 England Census
Albert Course Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relation: Head Married Gender: Male Where born: Cambridgeshire, England
correct
Civil parish: Chadwell St Mary Ecclesiastical parish: Chadwell St Mary
County/Island: Essex Country: England
Registration district: Orsett Sub-registration district: Orsett
correct

Albert Course 34 ------ggfather

Ernest Course 14------son
George Course 11------son

harry partridge who died in 1974 bournemouth
father Herniman? (possibly~~) if mr Herniman is in the loop,
he i believe commited suicide in the river Lee

however
Anne aged 2 in 1881 census and
william p born 1886 and his step brother harry partridge
seemed to have stayed together.

i also just put that Alfred died in 1955 and was listed as deceased in 1911. this information is from the marriage cert of my grandfather william p course
in brighton (why is this??)

all very intriguing

gdc


patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 11:45

He is not necessarily referring to his Father but to his step-father as being deceased in 1911.

Added:
And/or Annie has told him that his Father is dead, otherwise how could she marry Mr Partridge.

Graham

Graham Report 10 Mar 2013 11:51

Albert Course 34 ------is my ggfather

someone mentioned anne partridge married to albert course
------anne turner married albert course in cambridge---
g

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 11:52

So is this the George Dixon referred to?

British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920
Name: George Dixon Course
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age at enlistment: 19
Birth Parish: Hammersmith
Birth County: Middlesex
Document Year: 1904
Regimental Number: 4058
Regiment Name: Royal Artillery
Number of images: 17

Father = Albert, wife = Grace Charlotte Manson?

According to the records, Albert was living at 11 Calcutta Road when George enlisted in 1899

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 11:55

Graham, when I'm doing my own research I tend to ignore family lore and put it on the back burner. Once I've established hard facts by finding and verifying records I then use the family stories to put the meat on the bones. Very often there are inconsistencies between what has been told and what is correct. :-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 11:58

Albert and Anne's marriage:

Albert Course, "England, Marriages, 1538–1973 "

Name: Albert Course
Birth Date: 1851
Birthplace:
Age: 24
Spouse's Name: Anne Turner
Spouse's Birth Date: 1855
Spouse's Age: 20
Event Date: 26 Aug 1875
Event Place: Saint Paul,Cambridge,Cambridge,England
Father's Name: William Course
Spouse's Father's Name: William Turner

Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M13802-1
System Origin: England-ODM
GS Film number: 1040431
Reference ID:

Citing this Record
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVCG-TLF

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:01

If the father is ALBERT Course, then who is ALFRED?
(Would someone explain to me in easy words?! - perhaps I shouldn't have had that extra glass last night!)

Graham

Graham Report 10 Mar 2013 12:04

yes this is him I do know quite a lot about
George Dixon now but cannot find anyone how can
comment on events . His wife is Charlotte Munson
:-)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:22

Albert's birth year is way out on this 1901 but it's definitely the address referred to on his son's service records:

CRIBB, Mary A Head Widow F 55 1846 Newsagent Kingwood, Hampshire
CRIBB, Thomas Son Single M 23 1878 Dock Labourer Sittingbourne, Kent
COURSE, Albert Boarder Single M 58 1843 Dock Labourer Cambridge
ENDLE, George Boarder Single M 60 1841 Dock Labourer Cambridge
BLANCHARD, William Boarder Single M 56 1845 Engineers Labourer Bromley, London

Piece: 1661 Folio: 98 Page: 33
Registration District: Orsett
Civil Parish: Chadwell St Mary

Address: 11, Calcutta Road, Chadwell St Mary, Tilbury County: Essex

So was Anne a bigamist?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:36

Re: the 1901 that Patchem posted above, I do think that's the right one. I've looked at the other John & Anne (and variants) Partridges on the 1901 and the birthplaces just don't fit. The clincher is her mother Anne Turner living with them.

But there is no mention of a Harry born 1878? Harry is very often a nickname for Henry but the lad of that name with the family was born 1888?

EDIT: Is Percy Partridge on the 1901 actually Percy Course recorded under stepfather's name?

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 12:39

If George and William's father is Albert and not Alfred then this must be the correct death?:

England & Wales, Death Index, 1916-2006
Name: Albert E Course
Birth Date: abt 1850
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1923
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Orsett
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 4a
Page: 530

Graham - can you give us the details of the death that you have noted for the father of William and George?

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 12:59

This could be birth of John Partridge - if that Eastnor Herefordshire in 1901 is correct place, but age out:
Births Mar 1846
Partridge John Ledbury 26 195

If Annie married as Herniman, have we found that marriage or her in 1891??

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 13:08

I think this is John Partridge and first wife in 1891 (his wife is actually 39)

BEARDSLEY, Edward Servant Single M 28 1863 Gardener Nottinghamshire
POWELL, Edward Servant Single M 17 1874 Gardener Apprentice Pencoed, Glamorganshire
THEOBALD, Thomas Servant Single M 25 1866 Groom Kent
MARSHALL, George Servant Single M 30 1861 Groom Shropshire
FUNNELL, George Servant Single M 29 1862 Groom Northamptonshire
ROGERS, Richard Servant Single M 25 1866 Groom London
PARTRIDGE, John Servant Married M 40 1851 Coachman Herefordshire
PARTRIDGE, Emily Servant Married F 89 1802 London

Piece: 4454 Folio: 4 Page: 1
Registration District: Bridgend
Civil Parish: St Brides Major

Address: Dunraven Stables, Sea Mouth, St Brides Major, Southerndown
County: Glamorganshire

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 13:15

This fits with the birth I found
1871 England Census
John Partridge Age: 26 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Emily Partridge
Gender: Male Where born: Easton, Herefordshire, England
Civil parish: St George Hanover Square Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark
County/Island: London Country: England
Registration district: St George Hanover Square
Sub-registration district: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Household schedule number: 91 Piece: 95
Folio: 60 Page Number: 18
John Partridge 26 domestic coachman
Emily Partridge 22 Yeovil Somerset
Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 95; Folio: 60; Page: 18; GSU roll: 824587.

patchem

patchem Report 10 Mar 2013 13:19

1881 England Census
John Partridge
Age: 33 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Emily Partridge
Gender: Male Where born: Eastmar, Hereford, England
Civil parish: St George County/Island: London
Country: England Street Address: 24 Cock Yard
Condition as to marriage: Married
Occupation: Coachman
Registration district: Chelsea Sub-registration district: Hanover Square
ED, institution, or vessel: 5 Piece: 91 Folio: 72 Page Number: 16
John Partridge 33
Emily Partridge 32
Peter T. Hardwicke 8 adopted son Chelsea
William Tarling 17
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 91; Folio: 72; Page: 16; GSU roll: 1341020.

?
Peter Taylor Hardwicke
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1872
Registration district: Chelsea
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 282

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 13:35

If John and Emily are together in the 1891 then I don't think the two lads on the 1901 census are his sons.

I'm blowed if I can find Annie and those two boys in 1891.

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 10 Mar 2013 13:52

Found Anne's mother in 1891 with one of her grandsons:

TURNER, Ann Head Widow F 61 1830 Lodging House Keeper St Andrews, London
COURSE, Albert Grandson M 14 1877 Scholar Lambeth, London
FRISBY, Charles Lodger Widower M 53 1838 Painter Cambridge

Piece: 1285 Folio: 102 Page: 3
Registration District: Cambridge
Civil Parish: Cambridge
Municipal Borough: Cambridge

Address: 15, Norwich Street, Cambridge County: Cambridgeshire

(Not seeing this Albert on any other census)