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Can anybody help me find these people

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Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 31 Jul 2013 19:15

PH. I think that the Vittorio Pacitti that I found the obituary for and was on the electoral roll in Edinburgh is nothing to do with Peter. I, personally, am convinced that Peters Victor Worthington spent the first year of his life as Vittorio Pacitti born 1946.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jul 2013 19:16

I have a feeling about that too TS as i mentioned ealier in the thread.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jul 2013 19:19

I think you need to purchase a few certificates Peter.

Please can you give us all the details on the Pacitti/Worthington marriage certificate that you have.

:-)

Mary

Mary Report 31 Jul 2013 19:23

Maria Pacitti in 1956 was at Redfern Road Harlesden.NW10.

Maryb.

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 31 Jul 2013 19:35

In 1949 Mary, Michael, Antonio and Charles were at 32 Redfern Road, Willesden in the area of Roundwood.

Willesden has come up before.

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 19:46

I have no notes on the marriage. The records are very basic and are only recorded from what my mother told the children's society I think. It simply states that she married Worthington when victor was a year old but that they had separated and then I was conceived thanks to the guest house owner whom my mother worked for, named as George Marshall but not on any official documents and definitely not on my birth certificate :(

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 19:47

I will obtain certificates. Which ones though? The death of Josephine and marriage of victor to Kathleen?

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jul 2013 19:48

The record.......

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965
about Mary Pacitti Name: Mary Pacitti
Year: 1949
32 Redfern Road
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Roundwood
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0792

With Michael, Antonio and Charles.






PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jul 2013 19:56

What happened to the incorrect marriage cert that the librarian obtained?

Just so we know it's not the same as the one posted earlier.

When did that marraige take place?

CupCakes

CupCakes Report 31 Jul 2013 20:01


Name: Mary Pacitti
Year: 1949
County or Borough: Willesden
32 Redfern Road, Willesden NW10 9LB
Ward or Division/Constituency: Roundwood
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0792

living with Michael, Antonio and Charles

Name: Maria & Charles Pacitti
Year: 1953
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Roundwood
Street Address:32 Redfern Road, Willesden (wrongly transcribed 32 Winifred)
Reference Number:MR/PER/C/0914

At the same address
Name: Maria Pacitti
Year: 1956
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Harlesden
Street Address: 32 Redfern Road, Willesden
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0989


Seems Rose didn't stay with her husband very long
Addresses she was living at - no husband with her

Name: Rose Worthington
Year: 1948
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Roundwood
Street Address: 61 Fortune Gate Road ( incorrectly transcribed as 63 Nora)
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0768

Name: Rose Worthington
Year: 1949
Street Address: 61 Fortune Gate Road
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0792

Name: Rose Worthington
Year: 1952
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Gladstone
Street Address: 12 Stanley Gardens. Willesden (wrong 12 Walm Lane)
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/0888

Name: Rose Worthington
Year: 1963
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Brent
Street Address: 8 Inman Road, Willesden West (wrong 8 Keeling. Kathleen)
Reference Number: MR/PER/C/1164


Name: Rose Worthington
Year: 1964
County or Borough: Willesden
Ward or Division/Constituency: Brent
Street Address: 8 Inman Road, Willesden West (8 school is wrong)
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2979

Living with Gladys & William Giles


To be added to

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 20:37

I don't understand what all these entries mean :-/

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jul 2013 20:40


As you can see Peter.........all the above information seems to fit in nicely with all the names, dates, addresses and places that you have given us along the way.

I know that your main aim is to find your Brother Victor.

I don't want to be responsible for you wasting money on certificates that cost £9.25.........

If it was me........i would purchase a copy of the birth cert of Vittorio Pacitti born 1946 just to confirm whether or not he was indeed the son of your Mother.


I have no idea if the Victor who married Kathleen Drury in 1968 is your Brother...........Vittorio had the middle initail of "M"........so maybe, just maybe that is your Victor?

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 20:41

The record says this. I obtained your mother's marriage certificate (rose) to Arthur Worthington in order to obtain her fathers name. the certificate showed his name was Michael and his profession as a general labourer. I searched for a death of Michael Pacitti and found a Michael Pacitti who died in wilesdean age 70. The informant on the death certificate was A Pacitti, son living at an address in NW6. I wrote to Anthony Pacitti in 2009 and have not received a reply so far.

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 20:43

Sorry it wasn't an incorrect marriage cert it was an incorrect Vittorio Pacitti that was born in 1941

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 31 Jul 2013 20:44

Probate

PACITTI Michele, otherwise Michael, of 32 Redfern Road, Willesden London NW10 died 04/11/1953 who died on the way to the The Royal Free Hospital London WC1. Admin London to Maria Antonia Pacitti widow. Effects £499.11s 9d

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 20:45

Thank you so much everybody. I will purchase the certificates, a small price to pay if perhaps I'll find a living relative. I am overwhelmed by the response from you all and can't thank you all enough. I really didn't have a clue where to start!

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 20:51

If these people are the correct people then there is a death entry for Josephine and Maria but none for rose or victor have been found yet although given the date it's almost certain rose has passed away

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 31 Jul 2013 21:06

I think the librarian got the name Arthur confused with Albert!!

It's all looking good!!

It has been a pleasure helping you on this journey Peter.........i just hope we eventually find your Brother!!

Prickles.

:-)

Tenerife Sun

Tenerife Sun Report 31 Jul 2013 21:08

Death of Maria Antonia Pacitti in Southend. I would like to find her marriage to Michele to establish her maiden name.


Name: Maria Antonia Pacitti
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1891
Date of Registration: Jun 1980
Age at Death: 88
Registration District: Southend on Sea
Inferred County: Essex
Volume: 9
Page: 2670

EDIT ....SORRY PH I didn't realise you had already posted this info.

Peter56

Peter56 Report 31 Jul 2013 21:11

Who is this Maria? I'm confused now? Lol

Thanks so much I hope we find him or someone at least too. My adoptive parents have now both passed and they had no family/no other children so apart from my own children (6 of them) who i brought up on my own after my wife left, i don't have any family