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1911 look up please

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Sidami

Sidami Report 15 Apr 2014 21:34

Please may I have 1911 look up for Florence Houldon on born 1911 Lincolnshire, not sure where though Thankyou

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2014 21:41

Do you have the correct spelling of the surname? Nothing matches on FreeBMD. This is the closest:

Births Sep 1910 (>99%)
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HOLDEN Florence Spalding 7a 360

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 21:41

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

there is no Florence Houldon birth 1910-1912

can you say what else you know about her (the reason you are looking for the info, e.g. are you descended from her, so when did she marry ...)

also, is her name spelt correctly?

the only similar person in Lincolnshire in 1911 is

Harrison George Houlden 35
Emma Houlden 36
Florence Ellen Houlden 5
James Wells 21
Tom Rodgers 21


could she be this child?

Births Sep 1910
HOULDEN Florence S Horncastle 7a 509


snap Margee :-)

oh oops no, we have two different candiates :-D

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 21:44

the 1910 birth is probably this marriage

Marriages Mar 1925
Houlden Florence S True Spilsby 7a 869
True Harry Houlden Spilsby 7a 869

but not seeing her in 1911


edit, here she is in Cawkwell Samblesby

William Thomas Houlden 33
Rose Houlden 30
Ethel Mary Houlden 7
William Thomas Houlden 6
Frank Houlden 2
Flory Houlden 1
William Proverbs 15
Mary Davies 46

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 21:47

and this seems to be the other one, born in Spalding reg dist, in Cowbit in 1911

George Robert Holden 38
Sarah Eliza Holden 36
John Joseph Holden 7
Charles Holden 6
Thomas Holden 4
William Henery Holden 3
Florence Holden 9/12
Joseph Turner 76

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2014 21:49

Another candidate, Joonie:

1911 England Census
about Florence Holden Name: Florence Holden
Age in 1911: 9/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cowbit, Lincolnshire, England
Civil Parish: Cowbit
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Backgate Cowbit Nr Spalding Lincs
Registration district: Spalding
Registration District Number: 413
Sub-registration district: Spalding
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Piece: 19499
Household Members: Name Age
George Robert Holden 38
Sarah Eliza Holden 36
John Joseph Holden 7
Charles Holden 6
Thomas Holden 4
William Henery Holden 3
Florence Holden 9/12
Joseph Turner 76 , wife's father


Sidami

Sidami Report 15 Apr 2014 21:49

That's the one for Horncastle dist

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2014 21:50

Snap back at you, Joonie!

Sidami

Sidami Report 15 Apr 2014 21:59

The info I have is from a friend her mother was called Florence Houlden born Lincs 1910, she told me that a friend had found out a bit of information out from the census that she was living with Elizabeth who was a wet nurse to her. So this would be on the 1911 census, Elizabeth was born 1880 in lincs.She is trying to find her grandparents.

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:05

I confused myself there ! Spalding, Spilsby ... but it's the Horncastle one we want :-)

Births Sep 1910
HOULDEN Florence S Horncastle 7a 509

and I think that's the one we can't find in 1911 ...

No! That's the one in Cawkwell Scamblesby - Horncastle reg dist

William Thomas Houlden 33
Rose Houlden 30
Ethel Mary Houlden 7
William Thomas Houlden 6
Frank Houlden 2
Flory Houlden 1
William Proverbs 15
Mary Davies 46

so not with a wet nurse it seems

if someone has found her in the 1911 can't we just get the exact details about her from whoever found her?

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:09

I think this must be who you are talking about


Name: Florance Hall
Age in 1911: 6/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Nurse Child (Nurse)
Birth Place: Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Burgh in the Marsh
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Ingoldmells Road Burgh C Marsh
Registration district: Spilsby
Sub-registration district: Burgh

Joseh Houlden 40
Elizabeth Houlden 30
Florance Hall 6/12

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:10

this must be the birth

Births Sep 1910
HALL Florence Spilsby 7a 526

and the only way you are likely to get info about the parents is to obtain that birth certificate

you could also check whether she named her father on her marriage certificate

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:12

this is probably the couple

Marriages Jun 1903
Boyce George Spilsby 7a 1453
> Houlden Joseph Spilsby 7a 1453
> Lyall Elizabeth Spilsby 7a 1453
Rutter Charlotte Spilsby 7a 1453

Sidami

Sidami Report 15 Apr 2014 22:22

On marriage it says father is Joseph

Sidami

Sidami Report 15 Apr 2014 22:28

Where does she send away for the birth certificate please, can you send me that census with her on Many thanks for all your help

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:30

oops! click EDIT to take your email address out of your post above or somebody will be reporting you for breaking the rules. :-)


the father on the marriage certificate is probably the Joseph Houlden in the 1911 census I posted

Joseh Houlden 40
Elizabeth Houlden 30
Florance Hall 6/12

which you did see?

as I said, you need the birth certificate to get the real mother's name, but it very likely does not identify a father

it seems the Houldens reared her as their own child

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:30

we crossposted

this is where to get certificates

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 15 Apr 2014 22:33

I'll repost the census for you

Name: Florance Hall
Age in 1911: 6/12
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Relation to Head: Nurse Child (Nurse)
Birth Place: Spilsby, Lincolnshire, England

Civil Parish: Burgh in the Marsh
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Street address: Ingoldmells Road Burgh C Marsh
Registration district: Spilsby
Sub-registration district: Burgh

Joseh Houlden 40 - Waggoner on Farm born Ketsby ?
Elizabeth Houlden 30 - born Thorpe-Fen-dyke
>> Florance Hall 6/12

Registration District Number: 420
Sub-registration district: Burgh
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Piece: 19859

I am not up on sending files through this system if that is what you meant, to have an image, maybe someone else would do that for you?

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 15 Apr 2014 22:37

Many people confuse nurse child with wet nurse. Not so. Nurse child is just a foster child.

Sidami

Sidami Report 15 Apr 2014 22:42

So maybe she was born out of wedlock and these people adopted her, if so where would she go to find out if this happened ie adoption papers.her birth certificate would def show the mothers name but not the father is that correct.
Thank you so much for your time tonight you have been amazing.