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Curiously I managed to speak to a person at the britishnewspaperarchive.co.uk and they confirmed they had said photo but pointed me over to the British Library as the best place to obtain said photo......lol this is proving to be quite a task.

lol, instead of speaking you should be getting that months subscription, unless you can get to library!, way back we used to go to Newspaper Archives at Colindale, London!, back in dark ages!.

Have also found below from Lancs. Library Online (Newspapers) should also be on other Archives. (just one I belonged to years ago, not sure you can join outside of Lancs. now!)

Chris :)

Hull Daily Mail. 1935. Thursday June 13th

Death
Eliassen Alma Matila, 12th June, wife of late Elias Elliassen, Spring Bank.
At Rest after patient suffering.
From loving daughter Ena, Reggie, Len and Family.

(entries follow each year up to 1941, from daughter Ena)


Edits (as below)

13 June 1935 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England

Births, Marriages and Deaths.
ELLIASSEN.—AIma Matila_ Elliassen, 86 years, on 12th June, 1955, wife of late Elias Elliassen, Spring-bank. At rest, after patient suffering.—Erom loving daughter Kegge, hen ...”


01 February 1929 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire,

BIRTHS, MARRIAGEs, Deaths
ELIASSEN.—Jan. at * \ r,-„ the beloved husband T^' ' father of Mrs F. Simms. J ,, Bnd When the soft dews , My cvelids gently sleCP ...”


13 August 1940 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire, England

Hull Lighting Fines.
Frank Henry Simms, Park-street and £8 or days in prison for assaulting the police; Amanda Simms, wife of Frank Hy. Simms...


(was fined for assaulting Police Officer, who was interviewing Amanda about a light which had been seen from her back door)


10 November 1949 - Hull Daily Mail - Hull, East Riding of Yorkshire,

(Birthday Greetings
Simms Amanda Matilda (Dolly) best wife and mother in the World, husband Frank and all their chicks.)

well finally I was able to use the search facility to find the holder, gosh this really is hard work-

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn229/kornflakes77/Friday%2003%20December%201915%20%20Hull%20Daily%20Mail_zpshywkjqno.jpg

Whow some awesome news paper clips there Chris, many thanks for those little insights.

Fabulous and who knew, fabulous piece of the who was Frank Henry Simms father puzzle. Thank you cousin Mark for finding this :-)

https://imgur.com/a/sq6J9

Now who are these Bloxhams???

To make a start then, this is Frank (and Charlotte) in 1891:


1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
High Street, Brailes, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire, England

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Augustus Elliott Head Married Male 36 1855 Grocer & Draper Northamptonshire, England
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Annie Elliott Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Leicestershire, England
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Augustus Elliott Son - Male 6 1885 - Warwickshire, England
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Alice Elliott Daughter - Female 5 1886 - Warwickshire, England
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Walter Elliott Son - Male 3 1888 - Warwickshire, England
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Francis A Bloxham - - Male 15 1876 Grocers Apprentice Warwickshire, England
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Charlotte Simms Servant - Female 16 1875 General Servant Domestic Warwickshire, England
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James Richard Visitor Married Male 48 1843 Primitive Methodist Minister Cornwall, England

He was refered to in a newspaper article as Frank Bloxham 'Jnr.' so it is likely that his father was also a Frank / Francis ?

Dea x

This would be him, with family in 1881:


1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
The Park, Brailes, Shipston on Stour, Warwickshire, England

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Francis Bloxham Head Widower Male 35 1846 Baker Warwickshire, England
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Harriet Bloxham Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Warwickshire, England
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Francis A Bloxham Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Warwickshire, England
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Frederick W Bloxham Son Single Male 4 1877 Scholar Warwickshire, England
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Thomas Pickering Father Married Male 59 1822 Baker Warwickshire, England
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Mary A Pickering Mother Married Female 59 1822 - Stretton on Dunsmore, Warwickshire, England
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William Pickering Brother Single Male 37 1844 Baker Shutford, Oxfordshire, England
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Arthur Pickering Brother Single Male 20 1861 Bootmaker Warwickshire, England
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Mary A Palmer Visitor Single Female 14 1867 - Towersey, Buckinghamshire, England
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Frank, still single in 1901 and had moved on to Leicester:


1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
92, Knighton Lane, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

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William Turner Head Married Male 51 1850 - Uttoxeter, Staffordshire, England
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Anne Turner Wife Married Female 52 1849 - Fradswell, Staffordshire, England
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Anne A Turner Daughter Single Female 24 1877 - Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England
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William Turner Son Single Male 23 1878 Butcher Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England
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Constance Turner Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England
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Robert G Turner Son Single Male 16 1885 Grocer Lutterworth, Leicestershire, England
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Francis A Bloxham Boarder Single Male 24 1877 Grocer Oxfordshire, England

Dea x

By 1911 he had 'respectably' married into the Turner family and was running his own grocery business with her

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 /2 Knighton Fields Road West Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

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Francis Alfred Bloxham Head Married Male Grocer 35 1876 Brailes Oxfordshire
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Constance Bloxham Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Lutterworth Leicestershire



Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
Bloxham Francis Alfred Leicester 7a 209
Turner Constance Leicester 7a 209


Dea x

By 1911 he had 'respectably' married into the Turner family and was running his own grocery business with her

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
4 /2 Knighton Fields Road West Leicester, Leicester, Leicestershire, England

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Francis Alfred Bloxham Head Married Male Grocer 35 1876 Brailes Oxfordshire
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Constance Bloxham Wife Married Female - 31 1880 Lutterworth Leicestershire



Marriages Mar 1904 (>99%)
Bloxham Francis Alfred Leicester 7a 209
Turner Constance Leicester 7a 209


Dea x

They were still there in 1939:

Bloxham Household (2 People) 2-4 Knighton Fields Road West , Leicester C.B., Leicestershire, England
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First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Occupation
Francis A Bloxham 12 Apr 1875 Grocer Shop Keeper
Constance Bloxham 05 Feb 1880 Domestic Duties And Grocers Assistant.

They do not appear to have had any children.


Deaths Mar 1947 (>99%)
Bloxham Francis A 71 Leicester 3a 880

Dea x

Thanks Dea......so it looks like Frank Bloxham only had one child my great grandfather Frank Henry Simms. I know Charlotte Simms moved into London and also married, I think Minall was her married name and she went on to have two further children.

So today I ordered a dna test, it occurred to me that my great grandfather Frank Henry Simms, his eldest child was Harry Leonard Simms and his eldest child was Paul Simms and curiously I am his eldest child so I suspect their is a good likelihood that if Bloxham is indeed my paternal great great grandfather I will very likely carry the dna markers. Still it will be interesting to see how much of my discovered Gaelic dna will come through :-)

I know practically nothing about DNA for genealogy research purposes although there are a couple of people on here who do.

I noticed that Frank had a brother Frederick who I can see got married and had at least 4 children. The oldest of these was a boy.

Do you know if it would be any use following his descendants down and seeing if any of them would give a DNA sample which might be of any use to you in proving a connection for you to the Bloxham family ?

I could explore further if you think it would be of any help.

Dea x

Actually that might be very useful Dea :-)

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
2 High Street Leighton Buzzard, Leighton Buzzard, Bedfordshire, England

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Frederick W Bloxham Head Married Male Saddler 34 1877 Warwick Brailes
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Maud Bloxham Wife Married Female - 29 1882 Bucks Aylesbury
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Frederick Bloxham Son - Male - 3 1908 Beds Leighton Buzzard
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Maud W Bloxham Daughter - Female - 1 1910 Beds Leighton Buzzard
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2 more daughters born after this census.



This is his son in 1939 but it doesn't look like he ever married?

Bloxham Household (5 People) 40 Coxwell Street , Cirencester U.D., Gloucestershire, England
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Frederick F Bloxham 24 Feb 1908 Saddler (Heavy Worker)
Martha Eyles 10 Sep 1870 Unpaid Domestic Duties
Bessie Savory (Dinlea?) 10 Apr 1906 Incapacitated
Sorry, this record is officially closed. Check if you can open a closed record.
Barbara J Pedley (Freeman) 30 Jan 1920 Dyer & Cleaner Shop Assi


This would be his death:

Name Frederick Francis Bloxham
Death Age 96
Birth Date 24 Mar 1908
Registration Date Jan 2005
Registration district Cheltenham
Inferred County Gloucestershire
Register Number B69D
District and Subdistrict 479/1B
Entry Number 31
Household Members
Name Age
Frederick Francis Bloxham

His birth date is given here as March - the 1939 image original shows March but this had been corrected later to February so whichever is correct, this would be the same one.

It looks like this male line ends here.

Would the descendents down the female lines be of any use ?

Dea x

Frederick W Bloxham
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Frederick W Bloxham
Age in 1911: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Brailes, Warwickshire, England
Civil Parish: Leighton Buzzard
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address: 2 High Street, Leighton Buzzard
Marital Status: Married
Occupation: Saddler
Registration district: Leighton Buzzard
Registration District Number: 177
Sub-registration district: Leighton Buzzard
ED, institution, or vessel: 10
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 8967
Household Members:
Name Age
Frederick W Bloxham 34
Maud Bloxham 29
Frederick F Bloxham 3
Maud W Bloxham 1

Son's death:

Frederick Francis Bloxham
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Frederick Francis Bloxham
Death Age: 96
Birth Date: 24 Mar 1908
Registration Date: Jan 2005
Registration district: Cheltenham
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Register Number: B69D
District and Subdistrict: 479/1B
Entry Number: 31



I don't see a marriage for him, so far - unless the 1963 Frederick F marriage in Aylesbury is his..

EDIT:

That's Bloxham on Ancestry, but Bloxman on FreeBMD
The Index image is pretty blurred, but I think it's Bloxham.

EDIT again:

That could be the right marriage. It looks as if the bride had been previously married (nee Simmons), and born 1908

Marjorie R Simmons
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Marjorie R Simmons
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1940
Registration district: Aylesbury
Inferred County: Buckinghamshire
Spouse: Charles W Hawkes
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 4883


Births Mar 1908 (>99%)
Simmons Marjorie Ruth Leighton B. 3b 344


Marriages Jun 1963 (>99%)
BLOXMAN FREDERICK F HAWKES AYLESBURY 6A 662 BLOXMAN FREDERICK F HAWKES AYLESBURY 6A 662
HAWKES MARJORIE R BLOXHAM AYLESBURY 6A 662
HAWKES RUTH BLOXHAM AYLESBURY 6A 662


In which case, if that's Frederick's first marriage, there are no descendants.

Thanks again ArgllGran it may be several weeks before get the dna results......I'll be curious to know how this all pans out.

DNA what on earth is it??? So i ordered a kit via ancestry yesterday and lo behold it turned up today.......so you have to spit into a tube haha and then you send it back to them which i did today. You activate a number and in a few weeks times i'll be rather curious to see how useful this going to be in my family tree research.......it might be very useful or it be useless......its all new to me! So i've updated my family to tree to include this chap who it would seem very very likely is my great great paternal grandfather and it seems like Frank Henry Simms is his only recorded child.....I wonder if a DNA test will confirm this and how a current DNA test can even confirm this, so many questions, so many unknowns.

So I got his so far-

My great great grandmother Charlotte Simms born 1876 of Brailes and died Charlotte Minal in 1948 got briefly involved with this young man Francis A Bloxham born 1875 of Brailes who married some one else and died 1947. These two got together and created apparently Francis A Bloxham's only child Frank Henry 'Simms' who then went on to have an army of descendants!

So will this ancestry DNA test be able to confirm this? I have to wonder...