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I am looking for any members who have the above surnames in their family history.
The Chadwick side of my family appears to originate in the Staffordshire Moorlands area. The Robinson side in the Staffordshire area around Lichfield

Click on "Search" at the top right of screen and then click on "search all member trees" from the drop down box. Put any names you have into the search box and see if anyone has these people in their trees.

Kath. x

As only a handful of people ever look at these message boards, your best bet is to do as Kathleen advises - unless you want help with research, in which case give full forenames and birth years

A good starting point would be the marriage which united the families

There are 15 Chadwick/Robinson marriages in Staffordshire according to Findmypast. If you give some forenames we can have a look for you.

Kath. x

These are the issues I currently have.
CHADWICK
I believe I have found the birth record of my great-great grandmother. On the way I discovered that she had 2 illegitimate children one of whom was the mother of my great grandfather. Unfortunately he appears to have also been illegitimate. I want to discover if my great-great grandmother was an only child or if she had siblings, Is it possible to do 'blind' searches using only her parents names to find another possible baptism record?

ROBINSON
The problem here is that a search for my maternal grandfather has produced a census record of 2 possible candidates. I am looking for the best way to proceed.

I am in my 70s and as far as I know my 2 living relatives of comparable ages or older would be unable to help me as neither appears to have any knowledge beyond their immediate family.

If you want people to help you, please give names and years.

Marriages Sep 1936 (>99%)
CHADWICK Cecil W Robinson Stoke 6b 401
Robinson Alice Chadwick Stoke 6b 401


1939

60 Chamberlain Avenue, Stoke-On-Trent, Stoke-On-Trent C.B., Staffordshire, England
Cecil W Chadwick 10 Sep 1911 Male Chief Clerk Iron & Steel Merchant & Builders Merchant Married 198 1
The record for this person is officially closed.
Alice Chadwick 27 Jan 1911 Female China Decorator Pottery Married 198 3
Lavina Robinson 13 Dec 1868 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 198 4

1911 Census For England & Wales
32 Queen Anne St Hanley Stoke - on - Trent, Hanley, Staffordshire, England

William Robinson Head Married Male 45 1866 Railway servant cloak room attendant Armitage Staffs
Levina Robinson Wife Married Female 42 1869 - Longdon Staffs
Frank Robinson Son - Male 7 1904 School Hanley Staffs
Alice Robinson Daughter - Female 0 1911 - Hanley Staffs

ROBINSON, ALICE (MMN) SMITH
GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 187

ROBINSON, FRANK LAWRENCE (MMN) SMITH
GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 210

Marriages Dec 1893 (>99%)
Robinson William Lichfield 6b 749
Smith Lavina Lichfield 6b 749

1901
32, Queen Anne Street, Hanley, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson Head Married Male 36 1865 Railway porter Rugeley, Staffordshire, England
Lavinia Robinson Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Armitage, Staffordshire, England
William H Robinson Son - Male 6 1895 - Barton, Staffordshire, England
Arthur Robinson Son - Male 3 1898 - Hanley, Staffordshire, England

Re Chadwick births -

You say you've found the birth record of your GGGrandmother.
If it was in England or Wales , and not before 1837, you can look it up on the GRO site, and that will show you her mother's maiden surname.

Then you can look for other births with the same combination of parental surnames, remembering to allow for possible differences in spelling.

www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates

You have to register, but it's free to search births 1837 - 1934 and 1984 - 2020, and deaths 1837-1957 and 1984-2020.
Births 1935-1983 and deaths 1958-1983 can be searched in the same way on FreeBMD.

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl



Re your Robinson GGrandfather -

What was his name and date of birth, and which census do you think you've found him on?

A tree on Ancestry states that William was the illegitimate son of Sarah Robinson, and includes the image of the birth cert.

DoB 8th August 1865..............................born Armitage, Staffs

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Edial, Burntwood, Edial & Woodhouses, Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Robinson Head - Male 45 1826 - Staffordshire, England
Sarah Robinson Wife - Female 43 1828 - Staffordshire, England
Thomas Robinson Son - Male 9 1862 - Staffordshire, England
Martha Robinson Daughter - Female 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England
Jane Robinson Daughter - Female 2 1869 - Staffordshire, England
William Robinson Nephew - Male 5 1866 - Staffordshire, England


1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Armitage, Lichfield, Staffordshire, England
William Robinson Head Married Male 51 1800 Laborer farm Admaston, Staffordshire, England
Martha Robinson Wife Married Female 47 1804 - Blithbury, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Robinson Son Unmarried Male 23 1828 Laborer farm Armitage, Staffordshire, England
John Robinson Son Unmarried Male 19 1832 Laborer farm Walsall, Staffordshire, England
Edward Robinson Son Unmarried Male 15 1836 Laborer farm Walsall, Staffordshire, England
George Robinson Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Laborer farm Armitage, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Robinson Daughter - Female 11 1840 Scholar Armitage, Staffordshire, England****************************************
Ann Robinson Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Armitage, Staffordshire, England
Jane Robinson Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Armitage, Staffordshire, England
Charles Robinson Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Armitage, Staffordshire, England
Ellen Robinson Daughter - Female 0 1851 - Armitage, Staffordshire, England

First name(s) Sarah
Last name Robinson
Birth year 1839
Birth date 12 Sep 1839
Baptism date 19 Apr 1840
Baptism place Armitage, St John the Baptist
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) William
Mother's first name(s) Martha

ROBINSON, SARAH (MMN) COPE
GRO Reference: 1839 D Quarter in LICHFIELD UNION Volume 17 Page 73

ROBINSON, ELLEN (MMN) COPE
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in LICHFIELD UNION Volume 17 Page 88

Name: Martha Cope
Record Type: Marriage
Residence Place: Cannock
Marriage Date: 29 Oct 1827
Marriage Place: Cannock, St Luke, Staffordshire, England
Spouse: William Robinson
Religion: Anglican
Page number: 60

Great-great grandfather - George Chadwick - Baptised 1835 Butterton ((illegitimate)
His brother James Chadwick - Baptised 1827 Butterton (illegitimate)
Their Mother - Mary Chadwick - Baptised 1809 Wetton (illegitimate)
Her brother - James Chadwick - Baptised 1813 Wetton (illegitimate)
Her Mother - Sarah Chadwick - Baptised 1783 - Wetton - Father William Chadwick - Mother Eliza or Elizabeth

Robinsons to follow later

CHADWICK, CECIL WILLIAM BERRISFORD
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 322

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
Berrisford Ruth Stoke T. 6b 269
Chadwick William Stoke T. 6b 269

1911 Census For England & Wales
36 Campbell Terrace Hanley Stoke-On-Trent, Hanley, Staffordshire, England
William Chadwick Head Married Male 31 1880 Coal miner hewer Bucknall Staffordshire
Ruth Chadwick Wife Married Female 29 1882 - Longden Staffordshire
George Arthur Chadwick Son - Male 2 1909 - Hanley Staffordshire
Adeline Ruth Chadwick Daughter - Female 1 1910 - Hanley Staffordshire

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Black Lion, Leek, Staffordshire, England

James Chadwick Head Married Male 36 1815 Farmer & cordwainer emplg 2 men Wetton, Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Chadwick Wife Married Female 32 1819 - Grindon, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Chadwick Daughter - Female 11 1840 Scholar Butterton, Staffordshire, England
Sarah Chadwick Mother Widow Female 73 1778 - Staffordshire, England
James Chadwick Nephew Unmarried Male 21 1830 Journeyman cordwainer Wetton, Staffordshire, England
George Chadwick Nephew Unmarried Male 16 1835 Ag servent Wetton, Staffordshire, England
Sampson Malbon Lodger Unmarried Male 39 1812 Landed proprietor Elkstone, Staffordshire, England

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Church Street, Mayfield, Leek, Staffordshire, England

Moses Smith Male 70 1771 Staffordshire, England
Sarah Smith Female 60 1781 Staffordshire, England
Sampson Malbon Male 30 1811 Staffordshire, England
James Chadwick Male 25 1816 Staffordshire, England
Elizabeth Chadwick Female 20 1821 Staffordshire, England
Sarah Chadwick Female 1 1840 Staffordshire, England
James Chadwick Male 12 1829 Staffordshire, England
George Chadwick Male 7 1834 Staffordshire, England

I think I have resolved the Robinson issue

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I have all the Chadwick records you listed. My original question related to my great-great grandmother Sarah Chadwick. I do not know if she had any siblings. Given that I know her parents, is it possible to do a ‘blind’ search for other children using their names alone.

Try it - which site are you using?

Use the criteria you have - enter in the relevant search boxes
I posted the records as INFO for the people trying to help you