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Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 May 2013 19:40

I give up! Just been reading the Daily Mail ...yes I know it's a bit late in the day to read the morning paper, but..., Anyway back to what's got my back up Police Officer awarded £13k for a hurt toe though they say it's less than £4000 the rest in legal costs etc?? and in the same paper £20K for a lad's family when he was killed when he hit a wall while driving a stolen car and was being chased by the Police I'm sorry but to me it's a tragedy of his own making, no doubt someone will put me right. Though I do feel sympathy for his little boy . I wonder if anyone will agree with me?

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 May 2013 19:44

Is this the one where the police had not been trained in pursuit driving?

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 May 2013 19:46

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-22475798

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 May 2013 19:50

Unfortunately yes! But the driver was still going at 87mph and not wearing his seatbelt and putting others at risk

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 May 2013 19:51

I take it John you don't agree with me?? I don't mind

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 May 2013 20:08

Nolls. There is a moral and a legal point here, I think. Morally, he was a daft young driver - like loads of others of that age who think they are immortal and so is everyone else when they are behind the wheel. There are flowers by the side of the road all over these Valleys and they are often young and inexperienced drivers.

But the police were given strict instructions to back off. And they refused to ignore those instructions. That is why they had to be disciplined and the force had to admit liability.

Gins

Gins Report 11 May 2013 20:09

The Daily Fascist

:-(

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 May 2013 20:11

:-S :-S @ Gins. Who or what is the Daily Fascist?

AnnCardiff

AnnCardiff Report 11 May 2013 20:19

The Daily Mail of course - which I buy :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 May 2013 20:22

If I believed the Daily Mail weather, I would almost always be inappropriately dressed, Ann. No need to wear your swim costume on Monday in the 30C heatwave predicted in the Mail. It will be wet, windy and cloudy :-D

JustJohn

JustJohn Report 11 May 2013 20:25

Didn't we have a lovely time the day we went to anger?

And ate a raw slug?

Am I on right thread :-S

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 May 2013 20:33

Sorry John can't accept "he was a daft young driver" he was in fact a thief who stole a car and went his own way regardless of other drivers , that's no excuse. Young drivers know full well that cars are extremely dangerous though some choose not to care for themselves or others and before anyone shouts me down I know also know that most youngsters are very competent drivers. Yes I agree the police were in the wrong and should be pulled over the coals but I still don't think it' appropriate for any compensation.. .just my own thoughts though.
What's this The Daily Fascist?? hmm! ah! well!

Gins

Gins Report 11 May 2013 20:36

Ann :-D

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 May 2013 20:43


Did the young driver up the speed as soon as he was being chased,?as often seen on Police Wars,,,, some stolen cars are just crusing along then blue lights flash and a chase begins,,,,,,

steal a car and take your chance that an accident may well happen.,chase a car thats guaranteed to cause the driver to speed and an accident may well happen,,,

many car thiefs are dead because of high chases.

Rambling Rose

Rambling Rose Report 11 May 2013 20:45

Thing is, if the police have treated a criminal in the 'wrong way', ie not gone 'by the book' in following procedure which, in not being trained for speed chases and ignoring orders, was in effect what they did...it is the same as them not following procedure or orders when dealing with a criminal in other circumstances...in the cells, in arrest procedure, in use of restraint etc...the rules HAVE to be followed for everyone, for us all to have confidence in the police I think?

Dermot

Dermot Report 11 May 2013 20:47

'H&S experts are so entrenched in pessimism that they are willing to saw off every branch of a tree on which they are sitting, just to prove that it is not safe to sit on'. (D/M - MAG).

Porkie_Pie

Porkie_Pie Report 11 May 2013 21:00

This was a young man, not a young lad, We have younger men giving their lives for our country

This young man chose to steal a car from his girlfriends mum without a thought for anyone else including his young son and the safety of other members of the public,

If pursuit training is the main problem then maybe all officers should have to pass such training to be a serving office, My personal opinion is had he stole my car I couldn't care less about the pursuit training because even with pursuit training my car would have still been a wreck when I got it back so all I want is for them to catch the criminal who stole it

Roy

Nolls from Harrogate

Nolls from Harrogate Report 11 May 2013 21:07

Kay what's the police to do chase a stolen car or let it go?? Rose I agree police must go by the book otherwise we won't have a decent police force however did they cause the accident? I don't know

 Sue In Yorkshire.

Sue In Yorkshire. Report 11 May 2013 21:20

It doesn't matter who caused the accident, either the young man or the police.

The compensation shouldn't have been paid.

He would have still speeded even if the police had backed off as the young man could have started tormenting the police..

Have seen that done.


I was travelling back on the A64 on Thursday morning and my friend was driving at 60mph then all of a sudden a couple of men in a green car came speeding past us doing must have been well over a 100mph and within seconds they were out of sight.

We expected to see the car wrapped round a tree as the police wouldn't have been able to stop them.

Kay????

Kay???? Report 11 May 2013 21:26


The faster a car is being chased the faster the driver of a stolen car/vechile will go therefore not giving a thought to other users on the road in order to maintain a distance from the police,,,,,and persuing a car which is known will speed to the max the police play a part in causing reckless driving......

its a no win situation.