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Hello HB40.....I don't know if you've mistaken my Thread..but Ruabon is in Wales..many miles from Derbyshire........and although I do sometimes try to help in other places...a name like Jones..in Wales..is like the proverbial needle in a haystack...as is Roberts.

Sorry

Derek.

Hi Derek,

I'd like more help please if you don't mind.

I am looking for the marriage of Henry Needham c1820 at Barlow to Mary ? c1816 at Barlow, also their baptisms if that's possible.

I have found what I believe to be their first child, Jane c1841 although I haven't found her baptism. The other children I have found are
Henry bapt 6/11/1842
George bapt 28/9/1845
Betsey bapt 1/8/47
James bapt 1/6/1856 ( submitted entry)

baptism dates are from the IGI, bit of a gap between Betsey (my line) and James don't you think.

Thank you and hope you are well.

Chrissie

Hello Chrissie........nice to hear from you again....

I can confirm your baptism dates from Parish Records....and can tidy up some points;

Henry Needham son of John and Mary (nee Botham)..baptised Barlow 13.05.1818.....

married MARY DALE...at Cathedral Manchester 16.07.1839
she was a Manchester girl....my great great grandfather did exactly the same thing...in 1836..went over the hills to Manchester and brought his bride back to Derbyshire.....was a very common thing..

Their first child Selina Jane Needham was born in Manchester..baptised there 21.08.1841.

The rest of the children were baptised on the dates you have..at Barlow..including James Arnold Needham 01,06.1856.

Incidentally \henry was still going strong in 1901....and I have all the \census information for this family

Selina Jane Needham , by the way , died in Ireland 03.08.1874
In 1891:-
Henry(widower) was living at Top Common in Barlow..with his son James (and wife Sarah Rebecca) were living next door......

any more needed ..let me know

Derek

Hi Derek,

Thank you so much for the info you have found. May I ask where you found the info regarding Selina. I was surprised to see that she had died in Ireland.

Thank you for giving me Henrys mothers maiden name too.

Do you know if Henry and Mary had had any other children between Betsey and James, I thought 9 years was quite a gap between children.

A very grateful

Chrissie

hi derek
sent you a message on 9th march about issac and sarah parker have you had time to have a look for me
hope your keeping well sharon

Chrissie..the census showed she was born in Manchester..also showed he mother came from Manchester..and that the marriage between Henry and Mary took place here..........I do have access to some Lancashire records..which gave the DOB of (Selina)Betsy..and of the marriage....there were definitely no other baptisms...which is not to say there were no births..perhaps died in infancy without being baptised...or even miscarried.
Mind you its not that uncommon to have gaps.

Best wishes as always.

Derek.

Sharon..sorry for the delay..have been meaning to go to Matlock..but have had one or two horrors in the last few weeks.
I now intend definitely to go next week

Trouble is the Duffield Records have gaps..and Duffield is the Parish you want...........and Matlock is the only way of sorting it.

Derek.

Thanks once again Derek

Regards

Chrissie

hi derek
sorry to hear youve had one or two horrors, in the last few weeks.
any help is much appreciated so any time when you have time to go to matlock
thanks derek

Hello Derek

Still no joy with any details of a wedding between Christiana Blanchard and William Livingstone.

Just wondering if Hagg, Cornwall could in fact be a district in Lincolnshire?

Many thanks for all your help

Jenny

Thanks for answering Derek
My mothers side are the Ludlams of Oakerthorpe,I can't at present say which i require due to major fault on computer tower and am still trying to extract all family history.No luck up to now but keep trying.Anything would be usefull as I may have to start again

Hello Jenny..sorry for the delay..but I am working hard putting together a package for your BlackburnsLivingstones and Blanchards......

There appears nowhere to be a marriage for Christiana Blanchard to William livingstone..which may explain why every child of that union is a Blanchard Livingstone...........I suggest...That they may have never married......

Hagg in Cornwall seems not to exist..even though it is shown as Christiana's birthplace on two Census years..but a third Census shows St Elwin..which is in the Parish of Hayle in Cornwall......so looks like mistranscriptions all over the place......

Yes..there is a Christiana Blanchard born in Lincolnshire about the right
time..but there are also two more in Yorkshire......all of which |i reject..because with the Livingstones being from Portsmouth/Southampton..and the Blanchard also coming from the south Coast.as in Dorset and Wiltshire.........I think its a fair bet that Christiana was also from..if not born in,the West Country...i.e Cornwall..three consecutive Censuses.........and they all lead to Lydd in Kent,via our sea-faring Portsmouth/Chatham//Livingstones.

more soon

Derek.

Hello Rockfish..must say that \i am a bit bemused that you have no information to offer about your Ludlam's....
However..I have looked at the Ludlam's that are specifically recorded as coming from Oakerthorpe..and there are two families..90 years apart.......

PETER LUDLAM married ANN TOPHAM 25.01.1785 and had the following children:-
Sarah baptised 18.05.1788
Ann baptised 31.10.1790
Elizabeth 24.04.1796

PHINEAS and HANNAH LUDLAM............had the following children

Elizabeth Ann baptised 23.03.1875
Thomas 31.10.1875
a strange gap of only seven months..but bear in mind that Parish Records give BAPTISMS not BIRTHS.

Clearly there is a lot more........but I await your pleasure before delving deeper.

Derek.

Hi Derek

Could you please look up

ESTHER BRITTAIN born 1883 in egginton derby

i know she married a GEORGE HENRY BERESFORD (BEREISFORD, BERISFORD) in 1909
he was born 1887 in hope derby

both details from 1911 census

thank you claire

Many thanks Derek

Looking forward to more news. You really have got me hooked on searching, as yet still no good at it though, who knows what the future holds.

I am very grateful for all your hard work - I hope you managed a break over Easter!

Bye for now

Jenny

hi derek
have you any details of a marriage bet
rebecca kirk and william goodwin
rebecca was born 1787 in chesterfield derby
thank you
lorraine

Hello again Lorraine.....YEP!

William Goodwin married Rebecca Kirk at Chesterfield 24.06.1805

REBECCA was baptised Chesterfield 02.09.1787 daughter of Samuel

WILLIAM was baptised Chesterfield 12.06.1785 son of Abraham.

Way back when you were lucky to get both parents names on Baptism Records....

However..me being who I am (!)....have looked further and have found at least a clue.....I think a firm clue..but not 100%

18.02.1783 Samuel Kirk married ESTHER HEATHCOTE at Chesterfield.

c.1780 ABRAHAM GOODWIN married HANNA.............??

I'll dig further cos its you!!

Derek.

Hello Derek
Could you please have a look for a William Stevenson marrying an Elizabeth
in Sawley between 1800 to 1809

thank you

hi derek
thank you so so much for info
all the best
lorraine

Hi Quoy..unfortunately my Derbyshire Phillimore Marriage disc is damaged.and contains the Sawley marriages......once Bank Holiday is over I'm going to Matlock Records Office..where I'll find what you want.

..usually I can find your info in other sources, but in this case the nearest I can get is a marriage of William Stevenson to Elizabeth Clayton at Hucknall 12.02.1804.......

I'll get back to you.

Derek