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The 1954 Electoral Roll entry can be found by searching for either Olive J Bowler or Ronald E Bowler, but if you look at the image you'll see that both of them are at that address.

I thought from what you said earlier that you knew where they were, so I didn't post the entries for other years.

Here they are:


1953:

Ronald E Bowler [with Olive J ]
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Ronald E Bowler
Residence Year: 1953
Address: Beechwood Road 315
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: South Bedfordshire




Ronald E Bowler [ with Olive J and Mary A E ]
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Ronald E Bowler
Residence Year: 1952
Address: Beechwood Road 315
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: South Bedfordshire



Ronald E Bowler [ with Olive J ]
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Ronald E Bowler
Residence Year: 1951
Address: Thirlstone Road 38
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: South Bedfordshire

Ronald E Bowler
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Ronald E Bowler
Residence Year: 1949
Address: Beechwood Road 315
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: South Bedfordshire

[with Olive, Mary A E, and Frederick J ]

Olive Bowler
in the Bedfordshire, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1986
Name: Olive Bowler
Residence Year: 1950
Address: Thirlstone Road 38
Residence Place: Bedfordshire, England
Parliamentary Division: South Bedfordshire

[ with Ronald ]

You said they married "1947/48".

Marriages Sep 1948 (>99%)
Bowler Ronald E Stiff Luton 4a 491
Stiff Olive J Bowler Luton 4a 491

Hi
Thankyou so much for all your effort

I can now put the Electroles together
I know they lived at 38 Thiristone Road But didn’t know they went back to,315 Beechwood Road later 1952 /1953

Thankyou
Olive

Hi
Just to say I have managed to find the Electroles for my Family
Today at the Library
Thankyou for all your effort it has been really kind of you all
Bye for now
Olive

Hi
Just to say I am not sure where to ask this question

Henry Marsh born 1911 Sutton in Ashfield Nottinghamshire

Mary Jane B Brown 1914 Sutton in Ashfield Nottinghamshire

Married 1937 Mansfield Nottinghamshire

I have managed to find Henry Marsh Father and Mother with your help

But Mary Jane B Brown ?.?
It states on BMD .org her Mother is Pike
So I wonder if her Father and Mother was
Ethel Pike And Sam Brown

What do you all think
Thankyou
Olive

Use freebmd and https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp to check for any other births in the same area with surname Brown mmn Pike -

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BROWN, MARY JANE BLACKWELL PIKE Order
GRO Reference: 1914 S Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 265 Order


BROWN, SAM BLACKWELL PIKE Order
GRO Reference: 1904 S Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 133 Order

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BROWN, EVELYN BLACKWELL PIKE Order
GRO Reference: 1911 D Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 250 Order

BROWN, VENICE BLACKWELL PIKE Order
GRO Reference: 1908 J Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 147

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: Order:
BROWN, MABEL ENGLAND PIKE Order
GRO Reference: 1917 D Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 193

As there were probable births pre 1911 you can then check on that census for the family. This would appear to be them -

1911 Census For England & Wales
6 Willowbridge Road Sutton in Ashfield, Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Sam Brown Head Married Male 35 1876 General Labourer Huthwaite Notts
Edith Brown Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Sutton in Ashfield
Sam Blackwell Brown Son - Male 6 1905 - Sutton in Ashfield
Vemice Blackwell Brown Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Sutton in Ashfield

Married 6 years - 2 children born and still living

Then look for a marriage between a Sam Brown and Edith Pike -

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1904 (>99%)
Brown Sam Mansfield 7b 185 <<<<<<<<<<<<<
Hibberd John Mansfield 7b 185
Pike Edith Mansfield 7b 185 <<<<<<<<<<<<
Slanet Matilda Mansfield 7b 185

Edith's birth:

PIKE, EDITH mms BRANDRETH
GRO Reference: 1880 D Quarter in MANSFIELD Volume 07B Page 81


Parents' marriage:

Marriages Sep 1867 (>99%)
BRANDRETH Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 88
Pike Charles Mansfield 7b 88


Edith Pike
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Edith Pike
Gender: Female
Age: 10
Relationship: Daughter
Birth Year: 1881
Father: Charles Pike
Mother: Elizabeth Pike
Birth Place: Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
Residence Place: Sutton in Ashfield, Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
ED,Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 2652
Folio: 128
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Pike 52
Elizabeth Pike 48
Samuel Pike 25
Benjamin Pike 24
William Pike 23
Charlotte Pike 21
Ann Pike 18
Elizabeth Pike 16
Edith Pike 10



Edith Pike
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Edith Pike
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1881
Relation to Head: Boarder
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Sutton in Ashfield, Nottinghamshire, England
Civil Parish: Sutton in Ashfield
Ecclesiastical parish: Hucknall under Huthwaite and Sutton in Ashfield St Mary Magdalene
Town: Sutton in Ashfield
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: BARMAID
Registration district: Mansfield
Sub-registration district: Sutton in Ashfield
ED, institution, or vessel: 02
Neighbors:
Piece: 3137
Folio: 36
Page Number: 6
Household schedule number: 43

Thankyou so much
Do you think they would be on 1939 Register

I did notice the Marriage for Sam Brown and Edith Pike 1904

And try to find them on 1911 Census

Thankyou
Olive

1939 Register - ignore the "Bram" - a bad transcription of Brown !!

Brown (Bram) Household (2 People)
3 Willowlndyr Lane , Sutton-in-Ashfield U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Sam B Brown (Bram) 07 Aug 1904 Male Coal Hewer Married 190 1
Gertrude E Bram 12 Nov 1900 Female House Wife Married 190 2

same address but separate listing - Venice becomes King at some point, no dates on forms

3 Willowlndyr Lane , Sutton-in-Ashfield U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Venice B King (Brown) 26 Apr 1908 Female Hosiery Mender Single 191 1
Mabel E Bram 07 Sep 1917 Female Hosiery Seemer Single 191 2

Looks like Evelyn died young

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Jun 1914 (>99%)
Brown Evelyn B 2 Mansfield 7b 111

So is that a second marriage for Sam ??

Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%)
Brown Sam B Town Mansfield 7b 256
Town Gertrude E Brown Mansfield 7b 256

Whoever completed the form appears to have Mary Jane's Year of birth wrong

Marsh Household (5 People)
13 West End , Sutton-in-Ashfield U.D., Nottinghamshire, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS SCHEDULE SCHEDULE SUB NUMBER
Mary Jane Marsh 13 Jul 1915 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 234 2
Henry Marsh 11 Apr 1911 Male Coal Hewer (Heavy Worker) Below Married 234 1
Jean Keane (Marsh) 01 Dec 1937 Female Under School Age Single 234 3
Douglas Marsh 08 Mar 1939 Male Under School Age Single 234 4
Doreen Smith (Marsh) 31 Dec 1937 Female Under School Age Single 254 5
Ref: RG101/6241C/025/16 Letter Code: RNQL

Jean's change of name noted on register 15.5.1963 - not necessarily the date of marriage, but rather the date the change was notified.

AG - is that marriage for Sam Bakewell Brown - Gertrude is about his age - rather than for Sam Senior (or am i missing something?


Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Births Dec 1900 (>99%)
Town Gertrude Elizabeth Mansfield 7b 121

Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page
Deaths Mar 1935 (>99%)
Brown Sam 59 Mansfield 7b 118

Deaths Dec 1936 (>99%)
Brown Edith 55 Mansfield 7b 103

Hi
Thankyou again
So if Sam Brown married again 1938
Maybe Ethel Brown nee Pike had died

I just carnt believe what you all have found

You state that Jean Marsh Keane has changed her name on Register 15.5.1963
Would it be an Electrole
Thankyou all again
Olive

Just read the 1939 Register
Thankyou
Also the deaths for Sam Brown 1935 Edith Brown 1936 Mansfield Nottinghamshire

So the picture is fitting together
Bye for now and Thankyou
Olive