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Dionne Report 9 Oct 2007 19:28

Thanks Selina. I have just found it.
Thas two email addresses now.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 9 Oct 2007 19:52

Believe the Jean married to a J Pothecary was born 1942 London married 1968 3rd qtr



Dionne Report 9 Oct 2007 20:03

Hi Brenda

Well this is getting very strange now. my father was born in 1942. The Jean I have with parents of Sloper and Livermore was born in 1934. So perhaps that is a red herring.
I am just sat on the edge of my seat waiting for Jean Pothecary to respond to my email and explain what connection we have with four members of the same family being listed in both of our trees.
I have also emailed her at the history society that Selina found for me.
Many thanks

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 Oct 2007 20:13


I have a phone number for Jean if you like. There's also a Constance Bright at her address. There's a coincidence.


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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 9 Oct 2007 20:19

Jean's maiden name was Bright. Perhaps she is Constance's daughter?


Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 9 Oct 2007 20:31

Another sibling?

Patricia D Sloper mmn Livermore
2nd qtr 1945
vol 3a page 609


Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 9 Oct 2007 21:04

Herberts brother:

Births Sep 1884
Sloper Henry Thomas Croydon 2a 280

SLOPER Henry Thomas Camberwell 1d 800
WILLIS Annie Maude Camberwell 1d 800

Births Dec 1911
Sloper Leslie T mmn Willis Camberwell 1d 1474

Leslie T Sloper.... Peggy J Holding
1st qtr 1939
vol 1d page 750

Pamela Sloper mmn Holding
2nd qtr 1943
vol 3a page 2379

Wendy M Sloper mmn Holding
1st qtr 1946
vol 1d page 632

Wendy M Sloper.......Brian W Hoy
1st qtr 1969
vol 5D page 369

Death of Herbert & Henry's mother ?

Katherine Sloper age 97 (born 1855)
1st qtr 1952
vol 5c page 242



*~*Chris*~* Report 9 Oct 2007 21:55

Hi been watching this thread since the start who need soap operas! keep us posted Good luck
Chris x


Dionne Report 9 Oct 2007 21:59

Hello everyone.
I have just spoken with Jean on the phone. I cant beleive it. Thankyou Rose for the phone number.
Now dont get to excited jean is not my fathers cousin but she is related to him.
They both share the same great great grandfather. I think they are about forth cousins. She dosnt know anything personaly about my fathers family but she does know a great deal about the Slopers in general. Most of them were gardeners and all lived around the Kent and Surrey areas. my dad has a great love of gardening.She is going to send me a detailed family tree tomorrow.
Now this I find spooky.She was born in 1942 the same year as my father. The month of August the same as my father.he was born on the 15th and jean the 31st which is my daughters birthday. Her street name is brookside and my fathers old address was brookside.
She was a wonderful woman to talk to and would love my father to call her. She can give him the background information on his history.
Thankyou for the previous messages and the information on Herberts brother Henry.
I see I have alot more information to look into now.Oh and by the way Constance is indeed Junes mother.
Brenda I see you might have found another possible sibling Do you know where willesdon is?
I am still determioned to find out if my father had brothers or sisters.I cant beleive that he was the only child. Tomorrow I will be ordering the birth certificates for Judith and Jean. I cant understand why apart from their registrations of birth there is no further information on them.Even if they are nothing to do with my father I feel they must have been adopted. Any ideas on how I go about finding this out?
It is a great feeling being able to give my father for the first time in his life some real family history. I am hoping now to find some possible relitives still alive.
I will keep you posted.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 9 Oct 2007 22:05


Registration County : Middlesex.
Created : 1.10.1909 (out of Hendon district).
Abolished : 1.4.1965 (succeeded by Brent district).
Sub-districts : Park Royal; Wembley; Willesden.
GRO volumes : 3a (1909-46); 5F (1946-65).

From: Willesden,London
To: Woolwich,London
Distance: 16.2 miles

From: Willesden,London
To: Harrow,London
Distance: 6.8 miles

From: Willesden,London
To: Edmonton,London
Distance: 11.7 miles

From: Willesden,London
To: Mottingham,London
Distance: 18.3 miles

As with Jean & Judith, I cannot find any information on either Dorothea M Livermore born 1928 or Patricia D Sloper born 1945.



Dionne Report 9 Oct 2007 22:56

Hi Brenda.

Firstly thankyou so much for your time and effort with this.
Doesnt it seem very very strange that all the possible siblings found have no further information apart from their births and all girls too.
Do you think the birth certificates would tell us much if I did purchase them?

Thankyou Dionne


lulabelle Report 9 Oct 2007 23:19

Hi Dionne,
Do you have an address where your father was born? only I live in Harrow and could take a picture for you if you'd like if it is still there.


Dionne Report 9 Oct 2007 23:28

Hi Louise

As of yet I have no address for where my father lived.All he knows is that he was born in Harrow.We are still waiting for his fall birth certificate to turn up.It hasnt arrived yet I think due to the postal strike.Hopefully there will be an address on there.thankyou for the offer and I will keep you posted.


Dionne Report 10 Oct 2007 12:55


I have just received my fathers birth certificate.
it says Certified copy of an entry of birth.
it has the address where born,name of child,mothers name,residence,when registered,the name and ocupation of father has been left blank.

Is this a full copy of my fathers certificate or just an entry of birth? I am really confused on this one.

Moody Blue

Moody Blue Report 10 Oct 2007 14:03



Dionne Report 10 Oct 2007 14:38

The information on the certificate reads as follows

When and where born..
15th Aug 1942
38 Kenton Gardens

Richard Charles

Name and Surname of Father

Name,Surname,maiden name of mother
Dorophea Maug Knight

Occupation of father

Signature and residence of informant
D.M Sloper-mother,38 Kenton Gardens,Kenton,Harrow

When registered
9th September


Joan Report 10 Oct 2007 14:47

I am confused now too !
I think I need a big sheet of paper to draw this one out !
Working backwards of course. Joan


Dionne Report 10 Oct 2007 14:53

Sorry Sorry Girls

I mean the mothers surname and maiden name was Sloper/Livermore.

My mistake i was in the process of ordering her marriage certificate to Arther Knight,lol



Joan Report 10 Oct 2007 14:58

So, Dorothea Livermore married Mr Sloper. Had Richard Charles in 1942. Then Dorothea Sloper (nee Livermore) married Mr Knight.
Why wasn't Mr Sloper's name on the birth cert for Richard Charles ?
I have a head cold and am getting confused more, Joan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 10 Oct 2007 15:00

so by not naming Herbert Sloper as the father seems she may have your dad by a different guy.

maybe the guy was a grenadier guildsman then!!