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Dolores

Dolores Report 18 Jul 2015 20:01

Immigrated to Canada in 1891. Would like to know the ship he sailed on, possibly from Liverpool.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 18 Jul 2015 20:46

would this be him
First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name COURTNEY
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth year 1873
Marital status S
Occupation BLACKSMITH
Departure year 1891
Departure day 21
Departure month 8
Departure port LONDONDERRY
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship name CITY OF ROME
Ship master's first name H
Ship master's last name YOUNG
Shipping line ANCHOR LINE OF MAIL STEAMSHIPS
City LONDONDERRY
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 13388
Ship registered tonnage 3453
Number of passengers 458
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists
Collections from Australasia, Great Britain, Ireland, United States
Transcriptions © brightsolid online publishing ltd


believe people for Canada went to the USA and on travelled

Researching:
Surname Fahse. Germany. Essex .South East London My avatar is one of our wedding photos of 1957

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jul 2015 20:59

Do you have any other information about him? When and where born? Married or single? Occupation?

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 18 Jul 2015 21:01

Connected?

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353460

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jul 2015 21:04

Possible? Says born Ireland.

Wm J. Courtney

in the 1901 Census of Canada
Record Image Vie

Name: Wm J. Courtney
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 27
Birth Day & Month: 25 Oct
Birth Year: 1873
Birthplace: Ireland
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1891
Racial or Tribal Origin: Irish
Nationality: Canadian
Religion: Presbyterian
Occupation: Laborer Farm
Province: Manitoba
District: Winnipeg (city/cité)
District Number: 12
Sub-District: Winnipeg (City/Cité) Ward/Quartier No 4
Sub-District Number: D-8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Wm J. Courtney 27
Clara Courtney 21
Clara Courtney 0

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jul 2015 21:09

Possible marriage of the one on the 1901 census?

GROOM'S LAST NAME: COURTNEY
GROOM'S GIVEN NAMES: WILLIAM JOSEPH
BRIDE'S LAST NAME: JAGO
BRIDE'S GIVEN NAMES: JOSEPHINE CLARA DATE OF MARRIAGE: 23/10/1899
PLACE OF MARRIAGE: WPG
REGISTRATION NUMBER: 1899,002556
REGISTRATION DATE:

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

MarieCeleste

MarieCeleste Report 18 Jul 2015 21:41

For background:

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1353240

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 18 Jul 2015 22:27

So, Dolores, you seem to know a lot more than you're letting us know.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 19 Jul 2015 10:40

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/genealogy_chat/thread/1353463

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Jul 2015 18:41

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1353488
About Clara

Could someone please copy over the births? My C&P is playing up
:-(

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Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 19 Jul 2015 19:10

I can't see a birth for that name in 1880. Where did you get the details from?

this one?

EDIT - Is this her birth (just registered as Clara):-

First name(s) CLARA
Last name JAGO
Birth year 1879
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's last name -
District WINCHESTER
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2C
Page 107

Kath. x

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 20 Jul 2015 00:22

Jacqueline - 'Clara' has her own thread. Thatr info had already been given.
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1353488

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MargaretM

MargaretM Report 20 Jul 2015 17:22

A William Joseph Courtney enlisted for WW! in 1916 in Winnipeg, Manitoba. Says he was born 25 Oct. 1876, Skiperine, Tipperary, Ireland. Lived at 461 Henry Ave., Winnipeg. Wife was Ellen. Said he had served 7 years Royal Irish Fusiliers, 3 years R.F.A. as regimental bugler.

Edit: Oh damn, you already had this info on one of your MANY previous threads about this family! AND YOU'RE CONTINUING TO POST MORE!!!

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 21 Jul 2015 02:45

I have no idea what thread this relates to, or whether there have been more threads posted while I was looking, or whether anyone has sorted out WHO Dolores is looking for, or whether this has already been posted ................

the 1901 household in Manitoba posted above was

Wm J. Courtney 27
Clara Courtney 21
Clara Courtney 0

that household is still present in the 1906 census + younger daughter Maud


in 1916 the two daughters are in a Children's Aid Shelter in Winnipeg

Name: Maud Courtney
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 13
Est. Birth Year: 1903
Birthplace: Manitoba
Home in 1916: 10, Winnipeg South, Manitoba
Address: No, 101, Mayfair Ave
Racial or Tribal Origin: English

Name: Clara Courtney
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Age: 15
Est. Birth Year: 1901
Birthplace: Manitoba
Home in 1916: 10, Winnipeg South, Manitoba
Address: No, 101, Mayfair Ave
Racial or Tribal Origin: English

this suggests that the father was in the military per the records cited above (mother was Ellen, wife was Josephine Clara) but where the mother had got to is the question since it appears from the military records that she was living in 1916

no subsequent marriage or death is recorded for any of the parents or daughters in Manitoba

http://vitalstats.gov.mb.ca/Query.php


is there some possibility that Dolores will return to at least one of her threads and give some clear and correct information?

name of William, known facts about him, ...

and do it by posting in the ADD YOUR REPLY box at the bottom of the thread and not by sending another private message to someone ............

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You remember me. :)

Jacqueline

Jacqueline Report 21 Jul 2015 08:15

Dolores has a plethora of threads about this..........



Detective

I C&P'd as per your request........ :-S

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Jul 2015 08:34

Thank you Jacqueline. OH thinks our mouse has 'had it'. :-D

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Dolores

Dolores Report 21 Jul 2015 23:05

I have got all the right information re William Joseph Courtney's birth, marriage, siblings. Am still trying to find his military records in the UK and when he immigrated to Canada.

Sorry for all the confusion

Dolores

MargaretM

MargaretM Report 21 Jul 2015 23:22

Dolores, the confusion is caused by the multitude of threads that you have posted about this person, not all of them with the same details.

The main rule on this site is not to post more than one thread about the same person.

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1353508

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1353240

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1353404

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353460

And I don't think that I got them all.

Researching:
Great grandmother Dorothy Bean nee Abbott (1858-1908)

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Jul 2015 23:29

The suggested imigration record was posted earlier in the thread. Here is the relevant part again

First name(s) WILLIAM
Last name COURTNEY
Gender Male
Age 18
Birth year 1873
Marital status S
Occupation BLACKSMITH
Departure year 1891
Departure day 21
Departure month 8
Departure port LONDONDERRY
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Ship name CITY OF ROME

So it left Londonderry on 21 Aug 1891 and docked in New York.

A link to the Canadian military records was posted on one of your other threads. This is the link. Just click on it to take you to the site. Apparently it will take a while to load
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?op=pdf&app=CEF&id=B2054-S008

It's possible that his UK service records aren't on line, or have been lost/destroyed
The following link leads to the National Archive site
http://tiny.cc/utgw0x
It talks about Muster and Pay Rolls which can be used to trace the service of soldiers who served in the British Army between around 1730 and 1898 but who were not discharged to pension. They are NOT on line.

The Military Record thread is
http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/military_chat/thread/1353240
You called it Service records/history. It is on Military Chat
...

If you are 'missing' information because you find reading threads confusing, why not print them out then if necessary cut the page into individual posts and put them in order.

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Dolores

Dolores Report 22 Jul 2015 17:11

I have all the information now on William Joseph Courtney and his family, both in England and Canada. Also the information relating to his military both in the UK and Canada. Thank you all for helping me find all this.

Can I close out all the threads pertaining pertaining to the following;

William Joseph Courtney -
Rose McNaulty
Josephine Clara Jago
George Crummy

Regards

Dolores

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