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I am helping my cousin to find his grandparents,his gr/father john howe gr/mother lucy letherton. I have no dob for either of them.my uncle david was born 1912




















mother's name lucy letherton.Ihave searched fof bmd also census but to no avail. Please can someone help me Thank you Pat .

I can't find any marriage for John Howe and Lucy Letherton.

Do you have your uncle David's birth certificate? If so what was his parents address when he was born?

Kath. x

Name: David G Howe
Mother's Maiden Name: Letherton
Registration Year: 1912
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District: Dartford
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Kent
Volume: 2a
Page: 1219

Is this your uncle's marriage? :-

First name(s) David G
Last name Howe
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1936
Registration month -
MarriageFinder ™

David G Howe married one of these people

Elsie K Fairweather

Spouse's last name Fairweather
District Romford
District number -
County Essex
Country England
Volume 4A
Volume as transcribed 4A
Page number 1527
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Kath. x

If the above marriage is correct then this is your uncle in the 1939 register (although I know it's his parents you are looking for):-

34 Crystal Avenue, Hornchurch, Hornchurch U.D., Essex, England

Howe household
(3 people)

First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number

David G Howe 11 Aug 1912 Male Metal Band Saw Machinist Heavy Worker Married 236 1
Elsie K Howe 16 Aug 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 236 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Kath. x

1939

34 Crystal Avenue, Hornchurch, Hornchurch U.D., Essex, England

David G Howe 11 Aug 1912 Male Metal Band Saw Machinist Heavy Worker Married 236 1
Elsie K Howe 16 Aug 1910 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 236 2

Second forename Gordon

Do you know if Lucy Letherton had been married before she married John Howe?

I can't find a birth of a Lucy Letherton in England or Wales.

Kath. x

cannot see any birth for lucy
only 2 letherton marriages on bmd both female

wonder if the name is misspelt

No record anywhere on FMP for the name Lucy Letherton

When did she die?

This is the only likely death I could find:-

First name(s) Lucy E
Last name Howe
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1871
Age 77
Death quarter 4
Death year 1948
District Dartford
County Kent
Volume 5B
Page 476
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007

EDIT - may NOT be the right one as there is a birth in Dartford Kent in 1871 for a Lucy Ellen Howe.

Kath. x

That one is on 1939 register - single

her wlll says she is a spinster
Howe

Lucy Ellen

—

1948

1949

England & Wales Government Probate Death Index 1858-2019

Dartford, Kent, England

Your cousin should get a copy of David's birth cert, if he doesn't already have it.

????

dont know who married who here

nearest i can find

Marriages Jun 1905 (>99%)
HOWE Alfred John Woolwich 1d 1993 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Netherton Alice Lucy Woolwich 1d 1993 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
SAMWAYS Alice Maria Woolwich 1d 1993
STRAW Sydney John Woolwich 1d 1993

Well, Howe certainly married Netherton.............

HOWE, RICHARD SAMUEL NETHERTON
GRO Reference: 1908 D Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 439

Name: Richard Samuel Howe
Baptism Age: 0
Record Type: Baptism
Birth Date: 11 Oct 1908
Baptism Date: 1 Nov 1908
Baptism Place: England, St Stephen, Tredegar Road, Tower Hamlets
Father: Alfred John Howe
Mother: Lucy Alice Howe


1911
Name: Richard Samuel Howe
Age in 1911: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1909
Relation to Head: Grandchild
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Poplar
Country: England
Street Address: 26 Vernon Road, Bow, London E
Registration District Number: 22
Sub-registration District: Bow
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 1667
Household Members:
Name Age
Amelia Baker 62
Priscilla Baker 26
Albert Ernest Baker 25
Jane Lucy Netherton 74
Mary Kathleen Howe 4
Richard Samuel Howe 2

Name: Richard Samuel Howe
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1909
Marriage Place: Ingrave, St Nicholas, Essex, England
Marriage Date: 13 Apr 1935
Father: Alfred John Howe
Spouse: Lily Maria Williams



HOWE, MARY KATHLEEN NETHERTON
GRO Reference: 1907 M Quarter in POPLAR Volume 01C Page 488


Name: Alice Netherton
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Samuel Netherton
Mother: Jane Netherton
Birth Place: Gibraltar*****************************************************
Civil Parish: Plumstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
County/Island: London
Country: England

Registration District: Woolwich
Sub-registration District: Plumstead West
ED, institution, or vessel: 04
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 570
Folio: 95
Page Number: 32
Household Schedule Number: 223
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Netherton 54
Jane Netherton 63
Alice Netherton 19


Name: Alfred John Howe
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1879
Marriage Date: 16 Apr 1905
Marriage Place: St Margaret, Plumstead, Greenwich, England
Father: William Howe
Spouse: Alice Lacy Netherton

NO....not that marriage

1911

Name: Alice Lucy Howe
Age in 1911: 29
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Alt
Civil Parish: Poplar
Country: England
Street Address: The Shelter, Glaucus St, Bromley (Poplar Boro Depot, Yeo St)
Marital status: Widowed
Occupation: CARETAKER and MATRON OF INFECTIONS SHELTER
Registration District Number: 22
Sub-registration District: Bromley
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Piece: 1705
Household Members:
Name Age
Alice Lucy Howe 29

only a suggestion.


Surname Given Name District Volume Page
Marriages Jun 1905
HOWE Alfred John Woolwich 1d 1993


Surname Given Name District Volume Page
Marriages Jun 1905
Netherton Alice Lucy Woolwich 1d 1993.

A differene in spelling ,,,,,,cant see a birth for Alice L Letherton.

Did David G have siblings>

Patricia's mother or father must have been a sibling of David.

Or is David only an uncle by marriage?

That marriage has already been proved not to be relevant...and the woman was born in Gibraltar as per census info

NO other Howe/Letherton births in England/Wales

We need feedback from Patricia

Wonder what happened to Lucy/Alice?

Findmypast has her born in 1881 as Lucy Alice. She's Lucy Alice in 1891 also.

Rose