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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 17 Oct 2015 16:21

"Happy Holidays" ;-) :-D

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 16:50

Just for consideration

Marriages Mar 1894 (>99%)
Bloomberg Esther Mile End 1c 689
Darlison George Mile End 1c 689
Glukstein Philip Barnett Mile End 1c 689
Glukstein Phillip Barnett Mile End 1c 689
Levy Hannah Mile End 1c 689
Vancliffe Baronet Mile End 1c 689

Hannah married Vancliffe...so possible marriage for Esther to Gluckstein/Gluckstein?



Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 17:42

1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
186, Evering Road, Hackney, London, England

Francis N Bloomberg Head Married Male 36 1865 Shoe Manufacturer Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Fannie Bloomberg Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Aldgate, Middlesex, England T
Henry P Bloomberg Son Single Male 4 1897 - London, England
Sarah Posner Mother-In-Law Widow Female 70 1831 - Poland (Russia) T
Gertrude Sercombe Servant Single Female 21 1880 General Servant Domestic Hackney, Middlesex, England

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
108 Kyoerdale Road, St John At Hackney, London, England


Francis Nathaniel Bloomberg Head Married Male Dealer Soft Goods 46 1865 Birmingham Warwickshire
Fannie Bloomberg Wife Married Female - 42 1869 London Stepney
Henry Percy Bloomberg Son - Male - 14 1897 London Stoke Newington
Rose Posner Sister In Law Single Female Private Means 45 1866 Kalisch German Poland
Marie Posner Niece Single Female Dressmakers Assistant 20 1891 London Bow E

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 17:52

Interestingly Henry Percy Bloomberg's army records are on FMP, he would appear to change his name to "H P Lawrence - late Bloomberg" according to one of the pages. later on explanation that he changed it by deed poll.

Has loads of detail on images,

British Army Service Records 1914-1920 Transcription
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First name(s) Henry Percy
Last name Bloomberg
Service number 2031
Regiment London Regiment
Unit / Battalion -
Event year 1915
Age 19
Birth year 1896
Birth town -
Birth county -
Birth country -
Residence town -
Residence county London
Series WO 363
Record set British Army Service Records 1914-1920
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:05

1911 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription
56 Farleigh Road Hackney, St John At Hackney, London, England

Learn more

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First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Occupation Age Birth year Birth place
Alfred Bloomberg Head Married Male Tailor Maker 41 1870 Birmingham Warwickshire
Kate Bloomberg Wife Married Female - 44 1867 London
Harry Percy Bloomberg Son Single Male Pupil Teacher 17 1894 Burton on Trent Staffs and Derby
Violet Stella Bloomberg Daughter - Female - 6 1905 London

( 3 children born 2 living)

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:23

British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939 Transcription
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First name(s) Harry Percy
Last name Bloomberg
Birth year 1893
Birth date 07 May 1893
Occupation Teacher L C C
Attestation year 1917
Attestation date 13 Nov 1917
Attestation age 24
Service number 122987
Archive reference AIR 79/1100
Next of kin first name(s) -
Next of kin last name Bloomberg
Record set British Royal Air Force, Airmen's service records 1912-1939
Category Military, armed forces & conflict

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:38

National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914 Transcription
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First name(s) Henry Percy
Last name Bloomberg
Birth year 1896
Birth date 25 Sep 1896
Event year 1908
School name London County Council Hackney Downs School
Town Hackney
County Middlesex
Country England
Parent name(s) -
Book type Admissions
Archive reference R/CLA/15/2
Folio / page no. -
Archive Hackney Archives
Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-books 1870-1914
Category Institutions & organisations
Subcategory Schools & education
Collections from Great Britain

Rambling

Rambling Report 17 Oct 2015 19:42

Royal Air Force Muster Roll 1918 Transcription
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First name(s) H P
Last name Bloomberg
Service number 122987
Enlisted 1918/01/01
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War
Collections from Great Britain

JoonieCloonie

JoonieCloonie Report 18 Oct 2015 00:10

maureen I suppose no one replied to your request for descendants at Rootschat so you decided to try here

I would suggest that you add a post at Rootschat about the information that has been found here, so that no one else wastes time finding things that are not lost

maybe Brigid should have explained this principle to you, and explained, in case it wasn't obvious, that asking total strangers to find information for you about a list of names with no place names or relationships or any indication of what you already know about them is more than a little unhelpful

Rambling

Rambling Report 18 Oct 2015 09:38

Taking a stab at this ( before my train... do genealogists ever give up I wonder ;-) )

This death for a Henry Percy Lawrence as per the changed name on army records
( ie formerly Bloomberg) seems possible, the birthday is right as per the school admission but the year is wrong by one, which is not unusual.

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First name(s) HENRY PERCY
Last name LAWRENCE
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 9
Birth year 1895
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1978
District AYLESBURY
County Buckinghamshire
Volume 19
Page 0980
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records


I'd guess at this marriage, but it is just a guess based on area, the death cert might be useful for NOK.

Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)

Lawrence Henry P Mitchell Hackney 1b 971 Scan available - click to vie
Mitchell Ethel E M Lawrence Hackney 1b 971

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 18 Oct 2015 12:54

~~~~ to RR. Travel safely & see you on your return.
....

PM From Maureen

No I cannot copy and paste anything; very much a basic user of the compk that uter. I do not have any further details of the siblings except what I put down. I understand if this is an impossible task and thank you for trying.
Regards Maureen
....

No Maureen, it isn't a hopeless case. Its just that we didn't want to go chasing down relatives you are already in contact with.

Rambling Rose has been working tremendously hard on your behalf and has discovered at least one name change. Use the Search All Member tree function to see if anyone else shares the same person. If so, send them a message to find out more.

Although we could possibly find real-time addresses for some of the descendents, only a small percentage of the population are interested in family history, certainly not when the mutual relative was born 100- 150 years ago.

Do try to build your family tree on this site and make sure you register your most up to date email address with Genes. As long as you don't cancel (as opposed to lapse) your membership any one with a mutual interest can contact you via the messaging system.

maureen

maureen Report 19 Oct 2015 10:24

Thank you everyone working on my behalf. I have taken on board the criticisms and am sorry. I am trying to trace anyone living now since nothing was handed down to me, neither uncles had children and I am an only child! To read that a likely relative died in 1978 is quite upsetting. If I say, will try harder, I hope I am forgiven.
Maureen

greyghost

greyghost Report 19 Oct 2015 10:54

New thread started

http://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1355613?jump=1355613

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 11:17

Maureen , I've reported the new thread to avoid confusion. Don't worry about it - the T&C can be confusing for novice posters.

Details Copied over

I am looking for any descendants of Rebecca Mathews nee Bloomberg 1860, sons Samuel b.1882; Percy b.1886, Abram b.1891; Nathan m. Fanny Posner 1895, sons Henry Percy 1896, Stoke Newington; Abraham(Alfred) m. Catherine Zwart 1892 son Harry Percy 1892 Burton on Trent, daughter Violet Stella 1905 Hackney

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 11:29

It might be worth ordering Henry Percy Lawrence’s death certificate to discover who the informant was. Just click on the link below to open a new web page.
http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/

Register then use the following details to order the certificate for £9.25. When it asks if the GRO details are known, tick the Yes button

First name(s) HENRY PERCY
Last name LAWRENCE
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 9
Birth year 1895
Age -
Death quarter 1 [i.e Jan-Mar]
Death year 1978
District AYLESBURY
County Buckinghamshire
Volume 19
Page 0980

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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 11:42

Henry Matthews 1901 census posted earlier links to this birth

Name: Henry Percy Matthews
Registration Year: 1886
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 94

It’s possible the Matthews, or at least some of the children, moved to the US

Name: Henry Percy Matthews
Birth Date: abt 1884
Birth Country: England
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: English
Arrival Date: Dec 1910
Port of Arrival: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Residence Country: Canada
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 29

Contact Brother Samuel Matthews & wife, 4 Burridge Blk, Henry Ave E, San Francisco, California. Henry was a clerk
EDIT - not sure of the Town now - see 1911 Canadian Census for Samuel)

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Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Rebecca Matthews
Gender: Female
Age: 45
Birth Year: abt 1863
Date of Arrival: 19 Jun 1908
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England

Travelling with Gertrude age 16. Destination Winnipeg. Notation that they were English Jews. Their ticket had been pre-paid

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Samuel Matthews London, England, School Admissions and Discharges, 1840-1911

Name: Samuel Matthews
Age: 5
Birth Date: 11 May 1883
School: Berner Street School
Borough: Tower Hamlets
Admission Date: 9 Jul 1888
Parent: Emanuel

of 16 Little Turner? St. dob 11 May 1883

U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Samuel Matthews
Birth Date: 11 May 1883
Birth Place: Birmingham, England
Residence: Seneca, Ohio, USA
Race: White

Resident of 114 Washington Ave, Tiffin Seneca Ohio.
Worked for B & O Railroad Baltimore, Maryland as a Fieldman.
Next of kin – Helen, his wife at the same residence

Social Services Death Index (SSDI)
Name: Samuel Mathews
SSN: 705-12-3474
Last Residence: 44118 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
BORN: 11 May 1883
Died: Sep 1970
State (Year) SSN issued: Railroad Board (Issued Through) (Before 1951)

Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007

Name: Samuel Matthews
Birth Date: 1883
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Place: Cleveland Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Death Date: 7 Sep 1970
Hospital of Death: Home
Death Place: Cleveland Heights, Cuyahoga, Ohio, USA
Certificate: 066089
Age at Death: 87
Certifier: Coroner
Autopsy: No Autopsy performed
Marital Status: Married
Census Tract: 0417

U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current http://tiny.cc/odlv4x

Name: Samuel Matthews
Birth Date: 1883
Death Date: 1970
Cemetery: B'nai Jacob Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Ontario, Richland County, Ohio, USA
Has Bio?: N
Spouse: Gladys Ellen Matthews
Children: Emanuel Matthews

Could Helen on the WW2 registration be Ellen? From the same link
Gladys Ellen Matthews
Birth: 1888
Death: 1979


Emanuel "Manny" Matthews (their son)
Birth: Jan. 10, 1910
Death: Nov. 25, 1997
Family links:
Parents:
Samuel Matthews (1883 - 1970)
Gladys Ellen Matthews (1888 - 1979)

Spouse:
Anne Jeanette Oxman Matthews (1907 - 1974)

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SSDI for Manny Matthews

Name: Emanuel Matthews
SSN: 271-12-4585
Last Residence:
44875 Shelby, Richland, Ohio, USA
BORN: 10 Jan 1910
Died: 25 Nov 1997
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)

Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1932, 1938-2007
Name: Emanuel Matthews
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1910
Birth Place: Canada
Gender: Male
Race: White
Hispanic Origin: Not Hispanic (Latino)
Death Date: 25 Nov 1997
Death Time: 02:30 PM
Hospital of Death: Long-Term Care Facilities
Death Place: Shelby, Richland, Ohio, USA
Certificate: 091618
Age at Death: 87
Certifier: Physician
Hospital Status: Other/Nursing Home
Social Security Number: 271-12-4585
Father's Surname: Matthews
Mother's Maiden Name: Walker
Marital Status: Married
Education: 4 years college
Armed Forces Indicator: Yes
Branch of Service: Army
Industry of Decedent: Miscellaneous general merchandise stores
Occupation of Decedent: Supervisors and proprietors, sales occupations
Primary Registration District: 7002

1911 Census of Canada
Name: Emanuel Matthaeus
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 1
Birth Date: Jan 1910
Birth Place: Manitoba
Relation to Head of House: Son
Father's name: Samuel Matthaeus
Mother's name: Green Matthaeus
Race or Tribe: English
Province: Manitoba
District: Winnipeg City
District Number: 24
Sub-District: 31 - Winnipeg
Sub-District Number: 31
Place of Habitation: 156 Henry Ave
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Matthaeus 27-b May 1882
Green Matthaeus 22- b Aug 1886
Emanuel Matthaeus 1 - b Jan 1910
Francia Waskey 10 - b Mar 1881

Samuel immigrated 1905, his wife & sister in law 1904.
He worked as a Clerk with the railways.




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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 12:34

Emanuel Mattheus
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1956

Name: Emanuel Mattheus
Birth Date: abt 1910
Birth Country: Canada
Age: 9
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Hebrew
Arrival Date: Sep 1919
Port of Arrival: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Residence Country: Canada

With Ellen age 32 & Jacob age 2