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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 12:48

Emmanuel Matthews
Canada, Manitoba, Birth Index, 1866-1912

Emmanuel Matthews
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1910
Birth Place: Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Mother: Ellen Warstowsky

1916 Manitoba census
Name: Manuel Matthews
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 6
Est. Birth Year: 1910
Birthplace: Manitoba
Home in 1916: 10, Winnipeg Centre, Manitoba
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's name: Sam Matthews
Mother's name: Ellen Matthews
Sub District Desc.: That portion of the city of Winnipeg constituting the electoral district of Winnipeg Centre, as defined by the Representation Act, 1914
Household Members:
Name Age
Sam Matthews 33 - Clerk with the Railway
Ellen Matthews 28
Manuel Matthews 6

1930 US census
Name: Emanuel Matthews
Birth Year: abt 1910
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Canada
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Son
Home in 1930: Tiffin, Seneca, Ohio
Map of Home: View Map
Street address: Washington Ave
Ward of City: 2nd Ward
House Number in Cities or Towns: 114
Dwelling Number: 231
Family Number: 238
Attended School: Yes
Able to Read and Write: Yes
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Language Spoken: English
Immigration Year: 1911
Naturalization: Naturalized
Able to Speak English: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Matthews 48 - Inspector for the steam Railroad
Ellen Matthews 42
Jack Matthews 12
Emanuel Matthews 20
Jannet R Matthews 4 - Samuel's daughter, born in Ohio
[3 10/12]

Emmanuel Matthews with his wife in the US 1941 census

Name: Emanuel Matthews
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Canada
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Son-in-law
Home in 1940: Shelby, Richland, Ohio
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: West Main Street
House Number: 145
Inferred Residence in 1935: Tiffin, Ohio
Residence in 1935: Tiffin, Ohio
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Citizenship: Naturalized
Sheet Number: 1B
Occupation: Station Attendent
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: College, 4th year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 44
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 800
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Max Oxman 56
Mary Oxman 52
Phillip W Oxman 29
Harold C Oxman 28
Emanuel Matthews 30 <<<<
Anne J Matthews 32 <<<<


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 13:01

Looking at Samuel Matthews and his wife Ellen (again!)

1940 US census
Name: Janet Rose Mattews
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1927
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Ohio
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Home in 1940: Tiffin, Seneca, Ohio
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Washington Ave Tiffin Ohio
House Number: 144
Inferred Residence in 1935: Tiffin, Seneca, Ohio
Residence in 1935: Same Place, Seneca, Ohio
Resident on farm in 1935: No
Sheet Number: 11A
Attended School or College: Yes
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 1st year
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Samuel Mattews 56 - Car Inspector on the Railroads
Ellen Mattews 52
Janet Rose Mattews 13
More on Janet

Miss Janet Rose Matthews
in the U.S., School Yearbooks,

Miss Janet Rose Matthews
Estimated birth year: abt 1927
School: Columbian High School
School Location: Tiffin, Ohio, USA
Year: 1943
Yearbook Title: Blue and Gold

Actually its an advert

Is your child a Brat?
Is your child Spoiled?
If so see –
Miss Janet Rose Matthews
Kiddy Kare Institute
Bascom, Ohio

Ohio Deaths
Janet R Rosenberg
[Janet R Matthews]
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1926
Birth Place: Ohio, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Residence Place: Ashland, Ohio, United States
Residence Zip Code: 44120-5610
Death Date: 30 Dec 2007
Death Time: 03:55 PM
Death Place: Ohio, USA
Certificate: 106135
Age at Death: 81
Registrar's Certificate Number: 108132
Certifier: Physician
Method of Disposition: Burial
Hospital Status: Decedent Home
Father's Surname: Matthews
Marital Status: Married
Education: Doctorate Degree or Professional Degree
Industry of Decedent: Social Work
Occupation of Decedent: Social Worker
Census Tract: 39035119501
Name: Janet R. Rosenberg
Last Residence:
44120 Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
BORN: 13 Jun 1926
Died: 30 Dec 2007
State (Year) SSN issued: Ohio (Before 1951)
Death notice, Cleveland Jewish News

Janet Rosenberg
Thursday January 10, 2008 1200am
Dr Janet Rose Rosebburg (nee Matthews) who had a long career in social work, advocacy and education, died Dec 30 at age 81
U.S. Public Records Index, 1950-1993, Volume 1
Janet R Rosenberg
Birth Date: 13 Jun 1926
Phone Number: 751-1943
Address: 3452 Milverton Rd, Cleveland, OH, 44120-4246 (1993)
[3542 Milverton, Shaker Hts, OH, 44120]
[13700 Shaker Blvd Apt 710, Cleveland, OH, 44120-5610 (1993)]

At the same address
Name: Dr Marvin L Rosenberg
Birth Date: (dd) Jul 1927 [ he might still be living]
Phone Number: 751-1943
Address: 3542 Milverton, Shaker Hts, OH, 44120
[3452 Milverton Rd, Cleveland, OH, 44120-4246 (1993)]
[13700 Shaker Blvd Apt 710, Cleveland, OH, 44120-5610 (1993)]


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 13:16

About Marvin - search for Dr Marvin L Rosenberg

a PDF search result

1. MARVIN L. ROSENBERG. 13700 Shaker xxxxx. Cleveland, Ohio 4
Birthplace: New York City. Marital Status: Wife, Janet; two ..

Birthplace: New York City
Marital Status: Wife, Janet; two daughters, Miriam and Ruth

Sorry - can't work out if the address given on the link is current, or where he may live now. He would be well into his 80s!


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 19 Oct 2015 13:45

Article Cleveland Jewish News Friday, December 25, 1992
Janet and Marvin Rosenberg….engagement of their daughter Miriam to Daniel Blain


maureen Report 19 Oct 2015 19:06

Yes, all the above info. fits beautifully. Thank you very much. I shall try to add it to the family tree. Rose, you found a link to a Nick Rich that really interests me as his great-grandfather is also my Great-uncle. However, I don't seem to be able to contact him as those links are for a site that only permits email if one joins and even then I am not too certain about that. However, I am in contact with another realtive who might know him. It is my Grandfather he is asking about.
I must now absorb all this info. Regards Maureen


JoonieCloonie Report 19 Oct 2015 21:39

maureen, Nick is a member of this site

search trees for

Adolph Rich 1858 Germany

he may or may not receive a message sent to him via that link ('Find Out More' next to his name in the search result) depending on whether his email address in his account at this site is current so he receives notifications.


that link takes you to the search result here in question


Rambling Report 20 Oct 2015 13:47

I'm back ( thank you DET) and very interested to see how the search has progressed :-) Will read back and see what's still to be found (Ezekial??) .

Maureen one of those links for Nick Rich did have an email address ( *edit sorry just realised it's only partial) but it may not be current so if you don't get a reply from him here, I will see if I can find him on the electoral roll.


maureen Report 21 Oct 2015 11:13

Brilliant! Thank you JoonieCloonie. I have written to Nicholas just now and hope to hear from him. I am now looking to see whether Henry Percy Bloomberg, name change to Lawrence) born 1896 Stoke Newington, died 1978 Aylesbury had any family, some of whom could still be living.
Did you have a good holiday Rambling Rose? I've set you another trail to follow! Best Wishes to all, Maureen .


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 13:09

this snippet is interesting re HP Bloomberg/Lawrence from

Hackney Down's School...Roll of honour

"Lawrence, H.P.Second-Lieut.: Writes from France:- “Will you make public the fact that I am no longer known to the world as Bloomberg. Before a benevolent War Office would grant me a commission it was necessary for me to change my name and so by Deed Poll ‘to all whom it may concern,’ I am in future to be known by the name of Lawrence.” We have just heard that Second Lieutenant Lawrence has been wounded in the forearm by a Boche machine gun bullet and is now in King’s College Hospital, London. (90/17). Visited School 93/18."


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 13:35

I wonder? Looking for Stella Violet but with no success as to a marriage under Bloomberg, did she change her name to that of her brother also??

First name(s) STELLA V
Last name LAWRENCE
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1904
Age 60
Death quarter 3
Death year 1964
County Warwickshire
Volume 9C
Page 227
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Oct 2015 13:37

Picking up on the LAWRENCE/MITCHELL marriage

Marriages Sep 1924 (>99%)
Lawrence Henry P Mitchell Hackney 1b 971
Mitchell Ethel E M Lawrence Hackney 1b 971

Rose has already posted Henry’s possible death

First name(s) HENRY PERCY
Last name LAWRENCE
Gender Male
Birth day 25
Birth month 9
Birth year 1895
Age -
Death quarter 1
Death year 1978
County Buckinghamshire
Volume 19
Page 0980

Might this be Ethel’s death?

Free search on GR gives all of her names/initials
England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
County Surrey, District Croyden
Year 1984
Birth Year 1900
Event Quarter 4

Ancestry’s version – they have a know problem with the data base. The preview does say Ethel Evelyn M Lawrence

Ethel Evelyn Lawrence
Birth Date: 3 Feb 1900
Date of Registration: Oct 1984
Age at Death: 84
Registration district: Croydon
Inferred County: London, Surrey
Volume: 11
Page: 1752

Her Estate went to Probate

LAWRENCE Ethel Evelyn May of 9 Shirley Wy Shirley Croyden died 14 October 1984 Probate London 17 December £61868. Folio # 8480016360X

Rather than accepting our suggestions as Fact, it really would be best to invest in some certificates.


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 13:45

DET I think that one's likely too, but as you say it will need certs to be sure. I couldn't see any children for that marriage can you?

I wish I could remember the thought I had just before i went to sleep last night re this thread lol :-D


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Oct 2015 13:47

London, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1965

Name: Ethel Lawrence - image says Ethel E M Lawrence
Year: 1963
County or Borough: Croydon
Ward or Division/Constituency: Croydon South
Street address: 9 Shirley Hills Road - image says Shirley Way, the same as on the probate entry
Reference Number: LCC/PER/B/2899
Living with a Henry P Lawrence

Earliest obvious entry is in 1945. Still there in 1965


maureen Report 21 Oct 2015 14:41

Violet Stella's surname was Bloomberg, her parents being Alfred Bloomberg who married a Catherine Zwart. Violet was born 1905 and there is cause for confusion because her brother's name was HARRY Percy born 1892. Maybe she married her cousin? My brother-in-law went to Hackney Downs, as did Harold Pinter!
Now I wonder whether Esther Bloomberg, born 6.12.1871, Litchfield St. B'ham, who married in 1894 Phillip Barnet Gluckstein (or possibly George Darlison) had any family.
I appreciate all the info. but am not so dedicated as to purchase certificates. I leave that to you dedicated professionals. Best Wishes, Maureen


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 15:07

Hi Maureen, it's not really a case of being "dedicated" to purchase's just that sometimes you have to if you really want to know for sure. It's a personal choice just how obsessed one gets lol.

As to Stella V , there is no Bloomberg marriage to a Lawrence account for that name ( as far as I can see?) so she may just have taken the name. The families certainly did like to change names!


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 15:28

Philip Barnett Glukstein I am having trouble finding after his marriage

There is this child travelling with sibllings and mother Ester Gluckstein...but I can't find her in 1901 to confirm or eliminate as yet

First name(s) PHILLIP
Gender Male
Age 1
Birth year 1901
Occupation INFANT
Departure year 1902
Departure day 27
Departure month 9
Departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Destination port NEW YORK
Destination NEW YORK
Country United States
Destination country United States
Ship master's first name A R
Ship master's last name MILLS
Ship destination port NEW YORK
Ship destination country USA
Ship square feet 13032
Ship registered tonnage 4577
Number of passengers 865
Record set Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960
Category Travel & migration
Subcategory Passenger lists

siblings fanny, leah, minnie?( can't make the name out for sure) ? travelling with a Rosa Gluckstein ( servant)

Edit the other possible spouse George Darlison almpost certainly married an Alice I am pretty sure Esther married Glukstein/ Gluckstein


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Oct 2015 20:44

RE possible children for Henry Percy Lawrence. There is a problem in so far that there are a number of Lawrence/Mitchell entries in the gro index. Its impossible to say if, if any, are their children.

Ploughing through various ER, there is one which may suggest that all of the Bloombergs changed their surname

1920 – 31 Minster Rd, Camden
With Fanny Lawrence, Frank Lawrence
Fanny his mother and Frank being his father Francis?


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 21:06

I think I've just about exhausted the possibilities for Ezekiel... I think he must have changed both his first name and surname? I can't even see a birth cer for him...or have I missed it? :-S


+++DetEcTive+++ Report 21 Oct 2015 21:17

Even using a wide search in Warwichshire 1872-1874, there is nothing that could possibly be Ezekiel's. Its on the cusp of compulsary registration. Perhaps they decided to give it a miss if money was tight?

the only 2 in the same area and year range are

Births Mar 1872 (>99%)
BLOOMBERG Esther Birmingham 6d 147

Births Mar 1874 (>99%)
Bloomberg Polly Birmingham 6d 156
She died the same quarter

Name: Polly Bloomberg
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Registration Year: 1874
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at Death: 0
Registration district: Birmingham
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 6d
Page: 99


Rambling Report 21 Oct 2015 21:22

I've looked at all the Bloombergs in London 1901, all the Ezekiels ditto, Ezekiels who have emigrated ... the birthdate on the school admission would I think be correct, but that doesn't help a lot!