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Francis Donley born 1884 Sheffiled

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MaureeninNY Report 8 Nov 2009 19:08

I forget where you're ordering from!! If it's the GRO then:
Name: Eda Whittaker
Year of Registration: 1874
Quarter of Registration: June
District: Oldham
County: Greater Manchester, Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 618



June Report 8 Nov 2009 19:14

Awwww Maureen i have had a house full cooking a roast tea for 18 people and thinking about my chocs lol

we wont let this thread go Simon so get ordering that cert
I have had sleepless nights over this lol

June x


Barbara Report 8 Nov 2009 19:17

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

Births Jun 1874 (>99%)

WHITTAKER Eda Oldham 8d 618


Simon Report 8 Nov 2009 19:24

I will order the birth cert and the marriage cert with William Reid first job in the morning.

Thank you so much all of you, dinner for 18, i have a job doing it for 4.

Have a fab evening all of you and i will keep you posted in the morning.
Thank you Simon xx


MaureeninNY Report 8 Nov 2009 20:11

Yummy! June-any leftovers??



Dea Report 9 Nov 2009 08:23

Hi Simon,

Don't worry, we haven't deserted you! - Had to involve myself in a few 'family things' over the past few days but have still been looking 'on and off'.

Not found anything more that I can be sure of to post yet though.

Let us know when the cert arrives - hopefully that will help.

Speak soon,

Dea x


Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 10:06

Morning Everyone.

I have ordered the Birth cert for Eda Whittaker (JUNE 1874 / OLDHAM / 8d - 618 )and the marriage cert for Edith Whittaker and William Joseph Reid ( SEPT 1892 / SHEFFIELD / 9c / 590 ) this morning.

If all goes well i should have them by the weekend, fingers crossed.

We will see what they say, can't wait, i would like to say it will put an end to the sleepless nights but most likly it will through up more spanners to be placed in the works!!

I look forward to updating you all soon, until then have a great week and thanks again for all the help you have given to me.

Just a thought! when Frances Donley was living in Sheffield and it said sister in-law, and the Reids were at that address, is it possible she was a sister in law to someone else!

Simon xx


Gins Report 9 Nov 2009 10:16


I havent time to read through this thread at the moment but just something to think about

sister in law and brother in law were sometimes a term used for 'step' children.

Not knowing how old she was (Im sure its here in thread somewhere!) I cant comment but thought I'd post this before going to work



Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 16:18

Hi Every one.

Just going off at an angle here, but i don't want to start a new thread!!

From what we have found about Frances she had a brother John Donley born Sep 1881 9c / 406 Sheffield, i know we have him in the thread living with his mother Sarah!! at 20 years old, what i can't find is a marriage or a death, can anyone be so kind as to see if he joined the services as it was comming upto ww1.
Thank you very much, i hope this thread is not boaring you all and you don't think i am rude to ask for more help.

I think the box of Choc's needs to change any thights!!

Simon xx


Gins Report 9 Nov 2009 16:41

Theres this but it's Leeds which is about 38 miles north of Sheffield

Deaths Mar 1924 (>99%)

Donley John 42 Leeds 9b 772



Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 16:46

Hi Ginny,

Thank you no Leeds is close but still not sure, i will keep an open mind !

Also Ginny, thank you for the note from this morning regarding Step-sister, makes me feel better!

Simon x.


Gins Report 9 Nov 2009 17:01

British Army WWI Service Records, 1914-1920
about John Donley
Name: John Donley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Age at Enlistment: 20
Birth Parish: St Peter
Birth County: York
Document Year: 1902
Number of Images: 7

Occupation: carter

This is a Sheffield address

2 Court 1 house Water St,,,,same address for 1901 census so its defo him

i'll have a look for parents etc and post back in a minute. Theres no other details really except that he was 20yrs and 8mths old



Dea Report 9 Nov 2009 17:03

Hi Simon,

I KNOW it is hard but let's just wait for the certs?

We can get back on the case then.

You say in your last post:

I think the box of Choc's needs to change any thights!!


I haven't got any "thights" but the 'virtual' choccs will do just O.K.

Dea Xxx

P.S. - We will get there in the end !!!!!!!!

Dea x


Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 17:16

Hi Dea,

"Thights" i don't know what i was thinking about then!!
Should say thoughts!

I was just wondering what John went on to do, WW1 Carter, i need to find out what a carter was, i think it will be something to do with the steel industry transporting as most of the Sheffield men stayed at home as they were needed in the Steel works, it will be good to find out.

I know i can't wait, and i keep telling my kids that Christmas will come when it comes!

Simon x.


Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 17:27

Thank you Ginny,

I thought he must have gone in the Army!! i did'nt think he would have been a officer, ! Carter!, need to find out what a carter did and how long he stayed enlisted.

Thank you again this is great.



Dea Report 9 Nov 2009 17:37

Carter = Carrier of goods by wagon

Dea x


Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 17:48

Hi Dea,

Your good, i was looking on the net and all i got was Mr carter!

Well he pushed stuff about, not really front line combat is it!, none of my famliy was front line due to the steel industry apart from oh no dare i say it, Frances husband John Rochford who reportedly lost his arm in the boar war, so he told my mum but i can't find that out and i have tried.

Your good Dea.

Simon x


Dea Report 9 Nov 2009 18:08

As they say Simon,

When I am good I am very very good but when I am bad I am wicked !!!!!!

(Apologies if you are of the wrong generation to remember that) !!

Speak soon,

Dea x


Simon Report 9 Nov 2009 18:21

I remember it i think!.

Who said it.

Simon xx


Gins Report 9 Nov 2009 18:24

No Simon, sorry I may have confused you. 'Carter' was his occupation before joining up!

He was a driver of some sort in the army, because I can see he had training to do this

just a note;

The Thomas Ward firm in Sheffield at the time of WW1 had to draft in circus elephants to transport their goods as the horses were used for the war!

A carter is what Dea told you; this could mean they did the job of horses (on a smaller scale of course) or they could be selling wares out of a cart