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Debbie

Debbie Report 1 May 2010 20:57

Hi Ann

Please could you look for John Moses Tampion born 1872 and died 1873 at Woolwich . I would like to know if his parents were John warren & Anna Tampion .

Could you also look for any known children of this couple . the ones i have are Lucy Anna , Alice Maud and Lydia Louisa .

Many thanks Debbie

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 16:25

Debbie
The family actually come from Deptford, Greenwich.
John the father born Essex, Mother Ann , Suffolk.
I have found one more child Arthur, born 1870.
I have nothing at the moment for John Moses.
Does this help
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 17:29

Hi Debbie,
It looks like you already knew about Arthur, as you have him on your tree.
I think the best thing to do with John Moses is to order the death certificate. That would confirm it for you. As you are already aware of the other Tampion family in Deptford.
I also found a Herbert, and on checking saw that you have that one as well!!!. If you are the same Debbie on Genes with the Tampion family.?? Let me know if you need anymore help as I do have some info on Mottingham and Deptford but not as much as Woolwich and Plumstead.
That is I have on disc the parish records for St Marys, St Nicks, St Lukes Charlton Bexley and Eltham. If the children where not baptised it is very hard to confirm parentage, as you probably know.
Hoping this helps just a bit
Anne

Reece

Reece Report 2 May 2010 19:43

Hi Anne,
Many thanks for your kind offer.

I am looking for the birth of JOHN OLIVER b. c1811 - possibly in the Woolwich area. I have no parents for him but do have his marriage to Mary Ann Warren (of Plymouth) and the birth of their son John Peter Thomas Oliver in 1845 Plumstead.

John is shown in the 1841census at Woolwich Arsenal, Royal Artillery but cannot find him in the 1851. He may have died in 1856 but waiting for confirmation from GRO. There is a Will dated 1856 in favour of his wife Mary Ann, who remarries in 1860.

Hope this is not too much information.

I greatly appreciate your help.

Reece



Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 22:04

Hi Reece,
Will look in my Forces births for you, as he was a Sergeant in the Royal Artillery. It also says he was born in the county of Kent, so that gives me several leads.
Be back soon
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 22:04

Hi Reece,
Will look in my Forces births for you, as he was a Sergeant in the Royal Artillery. It also says he was born in the county of Kent, so that gives me several leads.
Be back soon
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 22:25

Reece,
I have just looked on the Nat Archives site, and have found his service record.The full details are not there but gives a reference for you to research.
ecords created or inherited by the War Office, Armed Forces, Judge Advocate General, and related bodies
Division within WO Records of the Royal Chelsea and Kilmainham Hospitals
WO 97 Royal Hospital Chelsea: Soldiers Service Documents
Subseries within WO 97 1760-1854: discharge papers arranged by regiment, but each described at item level. (WO 97/1-1271)
WO 97/1254 Royal Artillery: Oak - Par

Record Summary
Scope and content
JOHN OLIVER
Born WOOLWICH, Kent
Served in Royal Artillery
Discharged aged 37
Covering dates 1815-1849
Availability Open Document, Open Description, Normal Closure before FOI Act: 30 years, This series is currently undergoing digitisation. Access to certain pieces will be disrupted over the next 3 years and advance ordering of this series is not possible during this time. Please check with us that the pieces that you wish to consult are not affected before you travel.
Held by
The National Archives, Kew
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Reece

Reece Report 2 May 2010 22:42

Anne,

That is really kind of you. This is the right John Oliver.

We shall just have to be patient but will do as suggested.

It is strange that we can't locate him in the 1851 census. His wife and son are in Plymouth but he is not with them.

Thank you very much indeed for all your help.

Reece

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 22:47

Reece
I have found his parents, shall I PM you and you can give me your email details do I can send you a photo ??
Im happy that I found him
Anne

Carolanne

Carolanne Report 2 May 2010 23:20

Hi Anne

I am trying to trace my fathers family who i believe came from Woolwich. His name is Stephen John Barker born 10/01/1959 i have had a look on BMD records and could find a birth that could have been his with the mothers maiden name as Hodge. Other info i have was that his mother died when he was nine (1968) which corresponded with a Carol Hodge born in 1935 died 1968 and i also know that i was named after my grandmother. I also have been told he had a brother called Michael but other then that i am pretty clueless
Please help if you can

Anne

Anne Report 2 May 2010 23:58

I have found children as possible siblings:
Kevin A Barker born 1964
Angela born 1961
Roy born 1965
Leslie A born 1960
Carol A born 1954(this I think is a def posibility)
Michael e Barker 1956 (the other poss)
Was your dad the youngest or oldest?
I will search for other Barker/Hodge marriages in that era.
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 00:05

Could all of these children be siblings?
I cannot find another Barker/Hodge marriage in the vicinity?
The only other possible is a Daphne Hodge marrying a Brian Barker in Middlesex 1961.
Would it be worth ordering a token 2 certificates , say Michaels at 1956 and Kevin at 1964?
It all depends on what you know, who brought your dad up, is there no one in your family who would know. Once we have established that this is the correct marriage, it will be fairly simple to go backwards.
Regards
Anne

Reece

Reece Report 3 May 2010 07:50

Hello Anne,

Have sent pm re John OLIVER -thank you so very much for all found.

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 13:13

Hi Redbutler,
Am searching today, so hold on. I had a quick look the other day, but couldnt see him. I have to literally look through my fiches page by page so it does take time, the writing sometimes is nearly illegible. But if hes there I will find him
Regards
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 13:28

I have found a possible family for him on the 1851 census .
Military stationed at Woolwich 1851. I have looked through the nonconformist registers for him but nothing yet Im afraid.
Will see if I can find any of the other family from the 1851 census, which may give me more of a clue what religion the
y where.
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 13:36

HI Red
Found his birth on the Armed Forces Register.
Can you PM me, and I will respond
Anne

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 18:05

Sent you a message Red!

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 22:12

Red:Still searching but I have a sneaky feeling that they would have moved out of the country.

Anne

Anne Report 3 May 2010 22:29

The family I found had a daughter called Agnes born Sheerness, but if you look at the Forces birth for Charles you will RA next to his name, and Agnes has RE
RA Royal Artillery
RE Royal Engineers
So unfortunately not the same family.
Ive been searching for a book I have all about the Royal Artillery its an old book and in it it has the movements of all the troops, hopefully if I find it I might be able to see where he went. If he had been an officer I would have been able to find him in the Officers Register, but dont give up, I very rarely do. Am going to ring someone up at the MOD tomorrow for you, he has helped me before so hopefully you never know. What I want to find is where the actual records are kept from where that register I sent you are made up.
Chin up
Annex

Anne

Anne Report 4 May 2010 16:15

Thanks for the email Red will start looking into him