Genealogy Chat

Hi mary..there are FOUR Franicis tallents born Sutton cum Duckmanton.the two you mentions plus

Francis
son of Francis and Catherine 02/07 1710

Francis son of Francis and Anne 28/12/1736

which means that Hannah was born pretty well imediately from a couple of very randy 18 year olds....not beyond the bounds of possibility when there was no telly!!Q

Can't find..yet.the marriage of Francis and Anne..but I am happy enough that they ARE the parents of Hannah....

Derek

Hey Ann don't sob..I can` get to matlock very easily for things i can't solve myself.......Matlock records office has all the answers.just bear with me.....

Derek

Derek when I looked on family search I found
Francis 1736, Mary 1743, David 1746, Catherine 1748, Anne 1750 and Hannah 1754 all have parents Francis and Ann. So I assumed they were siblings this is why I was getting confused.
Thanks,Mary

Hello Derek
Tis I again. re Aeron/Callow/Holme
I wondered if you might have a chance to find out any info, on the Holme marriages.
I can see you are busy, but if you have a chance, I would be so gratefull.
Wendy sox1

Derek if you ever do go to the RO I would be grateful. I will make sure you have all the correct details to hand if you go so let me know.

Ann
Glos

Hi Ann.so give me the details and off we go!!

Derek

sorry Derek for the delay. Will type them out and get back to you.

I have PMd you all the details derek so as to not clog up the thread. many thanks for your help and I hope you are able to hep me unravel my Nightingales.

Ann
glos

Does anyone have the illigitimacy register (called Bastards index but I find that very offensive!) for derbyshire? My daughters direct ancestor is Mary Ann Brookhouse born 1837 to a single woman named Mary. Mary Ann was sent to Coventry in 1851 to be a servant, and stayed there, marrying a local man. I can't find her on the 1841 census and know nothing of her family.

Romany..do you know where she was born?? In derbyshire?
She married Henry Cleaver in Coventry......
Derek

As a` result of your now knowing her husbands name..you'll find her on 1871..1881..1891..and 1901 Censuses....
hope that helps........

I'll try and find her birth..don't have much hope becasue most Parish records stop at about 1830-1840......

Derek

Derek when I looked on family search I found
Francis 1736, Mary 1743, David 1746, Catherine 1748, Anne 1750 and Hannah 1754 all have parents Francis and Ann. So I assumed they were siblings this is why I was getting confused.
Mary

Hi Mary..I noticed that, I think you can assume they were siblings

Derek

Derek, will PM you.

Romany...got your Pm..may well be going to Matlock next week

Derek

Just realised you posted another message which I missed Derek. I have her on each census after marriage (and as a servant on the 1851). Cant find her on the 1841, although Ive possibly found her mother living alone.

Heavy snow in Matlock!!! lol

Hi Derek,terrible pangs of guilt today,just been browsing my tree,now up untill my fathers funeral in July i had grown up believing Thomas and Phoebe(charles brother)to be my ggrandparents, was so lucky to know them and spend hours playing chess with him in the parlour and helping Phoebe baking and.enjoying tales of convict camps and leprosy colony.s in India etc.Then when i found out about Charles my attention went onto him,now feeling awful that i've left them by the wayside. So is there any chance you can find family of Phoebe,she was born in Hanley,father was Robert Dale1856,Shelton,wife Eliza ?, help me feel a bit better about this Derek! p.s they actually brought my mother up as my nan had the chance to remarry but new hubby didn,t want my mother around,thats how nice they were! They not only bought Charles daughter up when he died but they also bought his granddaughter up too! such special people.gill

OOPS Derek,you do know we're talking Askews here.you almost feel like part of the family now ! LOL ..........didnt feel the need to say ........gill

Hi Gill.would be handy if you gave me the right information with which to work!!!!!!!!!!
Robert Dale was not from Shelton.which is in Notts and any number of other places to attach a herring coloured red to!!
He was.like his wife..born in Stoke on Trent..in one of the six towns that collectively are called the Potteries....one of them is Hanley..where Eliza came from..and another is FENTON from which Robert came.........I went to Keele university which is just up the road........
Anyway, with a considerable degree of utter brilliance i have ascertained the following:-
(anyone who deosn't know me reading this would think "what an arrogant little shit") lol

Robert Dale was born Fenton 1856 son of Geroge and Amy..he had three siblings.....by 1881 he is living with his mother who is now Amy Lloyd having remarried to one Isaac Lloyd

By 1891 Robert has married Eliza Ellen Wilson (parents Frances and phoebe b1826) and has fathered four children:
Phoebe Ellen Dale 1884
Clara Amy Dale 1885
Francis J Dale 1886
Thomas Dale 1890

In 1901 they are all still together in Hanley Stoke-0n-Trent

Now I'm knackered!!

Derek