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Derbyshire Parish Records

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Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 00:04

Hello Michelle..yes..they are the parents of Margaret carr..isabella's mother.....I have found also that ROBERT BOAG was a Wesleyan Methodist...and Non-conformist records are not that easy to come by....but i can tell you that THEODORE BOAG was born 28.10.1860 and baptised 18.12.1860 at Cromord Wesleyan Methodist Chapel.........and there ia a younger brother WILLIE WILLIS BOAG baptised in the same chapel 17.08.1863.......

Jane nee Robinson wife of Robert boag was buried at Crich 18.07.1887
ADDITION 00.13.Monday.

JOHN CARR husband of Isabella was born at bedlington 1834..died Sheffield 1885. He had a wife ELIZABETH REED whom he married at Newcastle 28.08.1858..she appears to have died....and by 1865 he is in Dronfield Derbys where he married isabella (at Crich)
He either had the first child by Elizabeth and took her with him to Derbyshire..or they are all isabella's..I think the former is more likely:-

Catherine Hannah Carr 1862
Harold Valentine Carr 1867-1910
Harry Sinclair Carr 1868
Leonard Stanley Carr 1869-1873
Albert Boag Carr 1871-1889
Frederick Charles Carr 1872
Margaret Eveline Carr 1874
Lilian Hetty Carr 1878
Reginald Ellsworth Carr 1880

All the best



Michele Report 4 Jan 2010 00:17

Thank you so much derek l really appreciated what you have found for me l will try and see what l come up with about isabella's husband john carr many thanks michelle x


Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 00:32

Michelle..have found a JOHN CARR born Allendale Northumberland 1834..baptised Bedlington 25.05 1836..so0n of Samuel and mary.....a possiblility?



Michele Report 4 Jan 2010 00:36

Derek lm finding the carr side very challenging regards michelle x


Michele Report 4 Jan 2010 01:02

Im finding this info you found for me very strange isabellas son harry sinclair born 1868 well there has to be a link to the g parents because sinclair runs through the family as middle names but l have an ebenezer carr born 1827 and he marries georgina sinclair l will get to the bottom of this regards michelle


Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 09:02

you'll also find "Ellsworth" as an element in the Northumberland Carrs......


LaGooner Report 4 Jan 2010 09:07

Happy New Year Derek, just getting a few new posers ready for you LOL


Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 18:49

Hi Elaine..sorry to keep you waiting..I don't have Ilkeston St. Mary records...but I have found LILY MAY WOOD daughter of ALFRED BURTON WOOD and JANE..........baptised Ilkeston 23.07.1876........I'll look further to confirm or deny this.
Was her marriage in 1899??



Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 20:15

hello again Elaine...further to my message below.....can now confirm the parents of Lily May Wood as Alfred and Jane 1876

You probably already know that she died at Hucknall Notts 01.02.1952

I have found two children for Lily and Arthur Vasey:

Leslie John C. Vasey 1899-1984
Edith Sybil Vasey 1906-1987
ADDITION 20.44 Monday.........

Alfred burton Wood was born Kettering Northants 1846 died Ilkeston march 1910.
He and jane had NINE children by 1891 (1891 census living at bath street ilkeston)
1881 living at 36 Market Street ilkeston....He was a Provisons Merchant
Albert Herbert 1871
Edith Ellen 1873
Charles Stanley 1875
Stephen Richardson 1879
John Taylor thre others between then and 1891

Best wishes


Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson*

Joy *The Carlos Cutie of Ilson* Report 4 Jan 2010 20:58


I'm really hoping you can help me solve a puzzle. In my tree I have:

MAKINGS, Fannie Marie (Maria) born c1856, Ilkeston.

She was actually born Fanny Marie COOPER.

I last have her in 1881 Census living with HENRY & ELIZABETH MAKINGS, listed as Fanny Makings baptism takes place in 1863 in Ripley.

I've searche till I'm blue in the face looking for marriage or death in either name only to come up with nothing.

Would love to know what became of her & crossing my fingers you can help solve this mystery.



Michele Report 4 Jan 2010 21:28

Hello derek
Ive been looking through the census for john carr 1835 born bedlington in the 1861 census hes living in derby with his first wife jane and then in 1871 hes with second wife isabella cant find a marriage that you posted on here regards michelle x


Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 22:26

Michele.John Carr's marriage to Isabella Boag is recorded in Crich Parish records 03.01.1866. He is from Dronfield, she from Crich.
There is a possible conflict over the first marriage of John Carr...have seen the census entries..the fact is that John carr married Elizabeth Reed 28.07.1858 at NEWCASTLE.
a John Carr also married JANE CAIRNS 17.08.1858 at EGLINGHAM......quite some way from Newcastle.......yet the 1861 Census clearly states his wife (Jane) came from Newcastle...
I have no information that will differentiate between the two.......I have to leave you to decide.


Derek Report 4 Jan 2010 22:56 odd one the moment i have found Fanny M Makings baptised Codnor Derby 1857 daughter of henry and Betsy sign of any Cooper.will continue lokking.
ADDITION 23.20 Monday..........I suspect that Elizabeth (Betsy) Makings maiden name was Cooper.
There is no doubt that Fanny maria was their daughter.I have them on 1861 1871 and 1881

Henry makings came from Suffolk (b 1833) and Elizabeth from Codnor (born 1827)..she may have been married previously..
They had the following children Ruth 1853..Fanny Maria 1856..Samuel 1858 and James henry 1863.
In 1871 there is a Ruth Cooper living with them styled as "daughter-in-law" born Eastwood Notts.
In 1881 Fanny maria and James henry are still living with their parents at 34 Basford Road Nottingham..which is, funnily enough just two streets from where i am sitting right now!!.
So it seems that somewhere or other Elizabeth may have been a Cooper...........nowhere is there any documentation that says Fanny Maria was born a Cooper........and she was the second daughter bornfive years after henry and Betsy were married...It's Ruth who may have caused the confusion.
Best wishes



Derek Report 5 Jan 2010 12:14

Good morning the first place you won't get to Matlock in this weather/I've tried and i live in Nottingham!!.secondly my track record will show that i never confirm anything i haven't checked out thoroughly, and in this case i am quite happy with my findings...a mixture of Birth records, successive census records and other info on Ancestry and IGI, all hang together better than anyone could hope...
The only way you will completely satisy yourself is by sending for the Marriage Certificate, which will have the fathers name.and if it isn't Alfred Burton Wood I'll send £100 to any charity you designate!



cane Report 5 Jan 2010 13:34

Hi again Derek,
Did your other thread get deleted?... you did a great job regarding info on my Froggatt family,did you ever find any-thing else?
regards "E"


Derek Report 5 Jan 2010 14:06

Hello Michele..have been looking at your Tree.......can tell you that if your JOHN CARR was indeed born at Stannington..then he was baptised 04.06.1786 son of ROBERT CARR and MARY nee RICHARDSON who were married at Alnwick 07.08.1778.

Since we're looking for an elusive John Carr 1835 Bedlington, there is another baptism for another John Carr (at bedlington) 11.04.1784 son of William and Anne. I am not suggesting this one is the right one, but its close enough to consider!!



Wifey Report 5 Jan 2010 21:06

Hi Derek,

I would be very grateful for info on the following:-

Baptism of Joseph N Lee, born q4 1911 Glossop. I have been told that this should be the place of Glossop as opposed to the registration district!!

Also the baptism of Ada Goddard, also born q4 1911 in Glossop.

Many thanks


Michele Report 6 Jan 2010 00:46

Hello Derek,
Thank you for taking the time to find all that info for me, thought l would let you know last night l sent off for isabella boag and john carr marrige cert and catherine hannah carr birth cert regards michelle


Cheshiremaid Report 6 Jan 2010 01:49

Hi Derek..

I am helping my friend with her tree and we come to a full stop and I am hoping you may be able to help us please...

We are looking for the baptism of a Thomas Maskery b c1807 Shirley, Derbyshire please. Having googled Shirley it is in Ashbourne...not that I need to tell you lol. I have checked the IGI but there is no reference.

We know that Thomas married Elizabeth Swinscoe on 16/11/1830 at St Oswald Church, Ashbourne and by 1841 they had settled in Longton, Staffordshire.

Any help Derek is much appreciated..


The Meercat

The Meercat Report 6 Jan 2010 08:57


thomas maskrey wasnt baptised at shirley,i have the parish records.

on ancestry there is a tree with thomas maskrey and elizabeth swinscoe.
this tree has thomas maskrey born in mappleton in 1805 parents john maskrey and sarah holmes.

i think that if derek could do his magic and have a look at the mappleton records for proof (not that i am doubting the ancestry tree.)you might be lucky.

over to you derek.