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Hi Cherilyn,

Thank you ever so much for Johns children. As always very much appreciated.
Johns children didn't live to a great except Annie interestingly the same name as James daughter who lived to a ripe old age!!!

Thanks again

Liz

Hi Cherilyn

Could you do me a look up please for Vic Deaths

James William Ridley Armstrong - died 1982 - and advise what information is provided.

Person is of british nationality but born on British army? base o/s - hopefully this will give me more info than Ancestry Death records before I proceed with purchasing cert.

Many thanks

Carol

Hi Carol

Here is the death reg - note reg year:

Surname: ARMSTRONG
Given Names: James William Ri
Father: James Ridley
Mother: Unknown
Death Place: TAYL
Age: 52
Year: 1983
Reg Number: 01726
Event: D

There is a tree online that may include his father b. 1902:

Lydia Faulder 1835 - 1906
....... +Ridley Armstrong 1834 - Unknown
....... 4 Robert Faulder Armstrong 1864 - 1864
....... 4 Mary Elizabeth Armstrong 1868 - 1868
....... 4 Ridley John Armstrong 1870 - Unknown
....... 4 Frederick William Armstrong 1873 - Unknown
.......... +Margaret Bryce Hamilton Shaule - Unknown
.......... 5 Marjorie Armstrong 1899 - 1899
.......... 5 Frederick Bryce Armstrong 1900 - Unknown
>>>>.......... 5 James Ridley Armstrong 1902 - Unknown
.......... 5 Margaret Mary Armstrong 1906 - Unknown


Matches this birth on FreeBMD in Leicestershire:

Births Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Armstrong James Ridley Mt. Bosworth 7a 62


Match for his father in 1881 census with parents Ridley & Lydia:

Household Gender Age
Ridley Armstrong M 47 [b. Carlisle, Cumberland; Coffee & Tea Merchant]
Lydia Armstrong F 46
Ridley John Armstrong M 10
>>>Frederick Wm Armstrong M 8
Mary Ann Davies F 18

Birthplace: Broughton, Lancashire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Son
Marital Condition: Single
Profession/Occupation: Scholar
Address: 32 Camp St
Census Place: Broughton, Lancashire, England

In 1901, Fredk Wm and his family were in Langport Eastover, Somersetshire. Shows wife Margaret as aged 24, born Scotland.

Is this the right family?

Marriages Jun 1898 (>99%)
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Armstrong Frederick William Carlisle 10b 1015
Shanks Margaret Bryce H Carlisle 10b 1015


Fredk's father's death:

Deaths Sep 1913 (>99%)
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Armstrong Ridley 79 Carlisle 10b 631

Thank you so much Cherilyn - your assistance has been very much appreciated.

I was hoping to get the mother as she has been a bit elusive but the info provided helps very much.

Regards

Carol

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Hi Cherilyn

I'm not sure that you will be able to help me but can you see if a James Gray/Grey b 1833 in Winterton Lincolnshire emmigrated to Australia. I know his brother George did and I cant find any trace of James in England. Thank you.

Jane

Hi Jane, I'll try - where did George settle? What were their parents names? Do you have a death date or place for George?

Thanks Cherilyn

George was b 1831 winteron Lincs. His parents were George Gray and Ann Holligsworth. They did not go to Australia. George b 1831 married Elizabeth Boreham1861 in Australia. George died in Caulfied 1/02/1902. Their first child Annie was born in Kilmore, Victoria in 1862.

Thankfully I have a lot of information on George but I cant find out what happend to James which is why I am wondering whether he emmigrated with his brother.

Thank you very much for looking

Jane

I guess this must be George?

The Argus, Monday 3 February 1902
GREY. —On the 1st February, 1902, at Malvern-grove, Caulfield, the Rev. George Grey, aged 70 years. For 48 years a minister of the Primitive Methodist Church.

It appears he was living in Garden St, South Yarra in 1896. In the 1860s he was minister at the Primitive Methodist Church in Kilmore. There is a photo of the Church here:
nla.gov.au/nla.cs-pa-http%253A%252F%252Fhandle.slv.vic.gov.au%252F10381%252F56799

He is interred at Melbourne General Cemetery.

still looking for James...

Sorry, very difficult with names such as Gray/Grey, too many possibles. I can't see his death with those parents' names. :-(

Thanks Cherilyn

Yes that is my George you found. I will take a look at the picture of the church you gave me II'm not sure whether I've seen it or not.

I was just hoping That Jamse had emmigrated to Australia and that was the reason why I cant find him in England.

Thanks for trying

Jane

I am really stuck ~ The only Information I have is ~ George Buchanan and his wife's name was Olive lived in Seymour, Victoria Australia, they had one son ~ Bruce Oliver, died in the last year and two daughters, Shirley and Janet. George owned a business called Buchanan Motors ? in Seymour. George told me that his fathers name was George Horne [Horn} or Horne George [Not sure if the spelling is just horn or with a e?? and they came from Scotland. WOW I wish I had more to go on but that is all I have. George died in the late 1990's, in the state of Victoria. Trying to trace back. Thanks in advance :-)

Hi Cindy

This could be his father's death?

Surname: BUCHANAN
Given Names: George Horne
Father: George
Mother: Jane HORNE
Death Place: ASCO
Age: 89
Year: 1957
Reg Number: 13583
Event: D

still looking...

An Olive BUCHANAN is buried at Seymour Cemetery. A headstone photo is available ny email. See www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ausvsac/Seymour.htm

This is probably her death:

Surname: BUCHANAN
Given Names: Olive
Father: Brown Robert
Mother: Mary Kell [surname may be BEWICK, see death below]
Death Place: SEYM
Age: 83
Year: 1985
Reg Number: 15493
Event: D

Her mother's death???

Surname: BROWN
Given Names: Mary Kell
Father: Bewick Joseph
Mother: Mary KELL
Death Place: FAIR
Age: 84
Year: 1962
Reg Number: 13866
Event: D

Which leads me to :

Family Name: BUCHANAN
Given Name: Geo Mitchell
Spouse Family Name: BROWN
Spouse Given Name: Olive
Registration Year: 1927
Registration Number: 25
Event: M

and his WWII enlistment, confirming the Scottish origin:

BUCHANAN GEORGE MITCHELL : Service Number - 19254 : Date of birth - 27 Feb 1903 : Place of birth - GLASGOW SCOTLAND : Place of enlistment - MELBOURNE : Next of Kin - BUCHANAN OLIVE

Sorry that is about all I can find. George & Olive's marriage certificate would be probably the most useful, as next step.

Thank you Cherilyn :-) I really appreciate all this. I just tried to search for George Mitchell's birth certificate in Scotland but it brought up nothing and I cannot find George and Olives marriage certificate and mostly because I cannot get the births and marriage registry site to work for me ~ the only one that is working is the NSW one.

When I read Georges middle name, I remembered it :-) Thank you :-)

My pleasure :-)

Try this link, I have given you all the info you need on p39 of this thread (p.s. no www needed)

online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/index-search?action=purchaseImage