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Hello Cherilyn
I am trying to find the death of Richard Stephens, Victoria
Born Uk abt 1834,emigrated to AU on 4th June 1856 on the ship Fairlie.
Died in the year 1864.
Regards Corinne

Hi Corinne

This is the only one that is a close match for b. c1834. Nothing in or around 1864.

Surname: STEPHENS
Given Names: Richard
Event: D
Father: Unknown
Mother: Thomasine
Age: 52
Death Place: SHURST
Year: 1887
Reg Number: 11809

The Richard on Fairlie arrived with wife Mary and children Philippa and Christian. It appears her mn was JOSE. They had 9 more chn 1857-1878 in the Heathcote area. Notably, including one named Tomasine Ann. Three chn died as infants (1865, 1866, 1868).

Any good?

Mary STEPHENS nee JOSE died in Heathcote in 1889 aged 59, d/o Francis JOSE & Mary HARRIS (reg 2616).

They married in Cornwall

Marriages Dec 1852 (>99%)
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Jose Mary Helston 5c 428
Stephens Richard Helston 5c 428

Hi Cherilyn
No that is not him sorry but thanks for the information.He had a child Richard Stephens born 25.12 1863 Melbourne hospital mother was Elizabeth Johnstone and they were unmarried.
He died 1864,he was a surveyor and that is about all we know.Do not his parents names.
Regards Corinne

Hi Corinne

There is no death in Vic for an adult Richard Stephens in 1864 (63 or 65). Where did you get the info of his death?

Cherilyn

Hello Cherilyn
I got the dates from others doing the family but not sure where he died,since he was living in Melbourne just thought he probably died there as he was young.He must have been somewhere else.
Thankyou for your help.
Just thought if we could find his death certificate then may find about parents etc.
Regards Corinne

Unless he died later than they thought.

Hi again Corinne

I guess it is one of these? No reg as STEPHENS so it seems they never married. Still no death so perhaps the story that he died soon after the child was born was to 'save face'?

If he was unnamed on the birth, how do you know he was the child's father?

Surname: JOHNSTONE
Given Names: Richard
Event: B
Father:
Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE
Birth Place: MELB
Year: 1863
Reg Number: 21785

Surname: JOHNSTONE
Given Names: Richard Stephens
Event: B
Father:
Mother: Elizabeth JOHNSTONE
Birth Place: MELB
Year: 1864
Reg Number: 11133

Is this Elizabeth's death?

Surname: JOHNSTONE
Given Names: Elizabeth
Event: D
Father: Angus
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN
Age: 50
Death Place: PORTD
Year: 1884
Reg Number: 5711

Hello Cherilyn
We have a copy of the birth & registration it says born 25 December 1863 father Richard Stephens present registered 10th May 1864 as Richard Stephens.His mother was the informant.
Elizabeth Johnstone married a Thomas Fell in 1865 Clunes Victoria AU.
Regards Corinne
Thanks for your help.

Sorry I should have said the second birth entree is his 11133.

Hi Cherilyn

Looking for information as regards James Carr & Gladys Eva ********. Maiden name unknown.

I have this so far regards James..but cannot determine Glady's maiden name.

Living at 124 Park Road, Barton, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1930.
Living at 124 Park Road, Barton, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1933.
Living at Caldarra Ave, Engadine, New South Wales, Australia in 1933.
Living at 36 Wellington Road, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1936.
Living at 36 Wellington Road, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1937.
Living at 61 Louis Terrace, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1943.

A Stanley James Ernest Carr is found living with James at 61 Louis Terrace, Hurstville, New South Wales, Australia in 1943. I assume he is related, but I do not know how?.

Arrived in Liverpool,on the 19th Sep 1946 from Australia, via Sydney, Melbourne, Fremantle and Port Tewfik, aboard RMS Orbita of the Pacific Steam Navigation Company.

Living at 483 Oxford Road, Reading, Berkshire, England in 1949.

Other relations and a marriage so as to find Glady's maiden name would be great!.

James & Gladys are parents of Leslie Alexander Carr, b1926 who married my aunt, Elizabeth (Bessie) Emma Wilson.

James & Gladys came to the UK in 1946. Leslie married Bessie in 1948, and emigrated back to Australia in 1960 with their 5 children.

Any additional info would be much appreciated. maybe Stanley is James father?. I believe Bessie has passed away..but not sure.

Thank You
Paul

Here are a couple of possibles for marriage and birth, seems a good match given birth of Stanley below...

Marriages Dec 1916 (>99%)
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Carr James Hobbs Hereford 6a 1016
Hobbs Gladys E Carr Hereford 6a 1016

Births Dec 1895 (>99%)
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Hobbs Gladys Eva Plymouth 5b 206

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Births Sep 1918 (>99%)
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Carr Stanley J B Hobbs Plymouth 5b 331

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Stanley J B could be a mistranscription for Stanley J E (ie Stanley James Ernest who was with them in electoral roll!)

James' WWII enlistment:
CARR JAMES : Service Number - N71522 : Date of birth - 07 Oct 1895 : Place of birth - BELGRAM ENGLAND : Place of enlistment - SYDNEY NSW : Next of Kin - CARR GLADYS

more to follow...

From findmypast:

CARR G E 1896 F 1923 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW
CARR J 1894 M 1923 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW
CARR S J E 1919 M 1923 London Australia Sydney VIEW VIEW

Marriages in NSW for son Stanley (Leslie's brother):

15480/1941 CARR STANLEY JAMES ERNEST POSNER DOREEN ROCKDALE

21786/1945 CARR STANLEY JAMES ERNEST MCCOY MAVIS JOY HURSTVILLE

No death found for Doreen so perhaps they divorced. This would explain why he was back home with his parents in 1943!

Wonder if Stanley & Mavis went back to the UK as well?

:-)