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Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 04:19

Hi again,
Can someone look up in Ancestry.com to find parents for me the details are
Alice Dora Gray born 1905 in Margate Kent, I have her parents as Albert Edward Gray born 1868c in London and Mary Elizabeth Gray nee Scott born 1870c, I think I have Alice's sister Florence Elsie Gray born 1903 in Margate. I just need to prove these parents to Alice, I have looked on family search and nothing, but her sister is there cant work it out thanks for any help.
Steve

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 22 Jun 2013 04:55

1911 census transcription details for: 1 Dane Villa Dane Road Margate
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National Archive Reference:

RG14PN4495 RG78PN185 RD63 SD2 ED13 SN358
Reg. District: Thanet
Sub District: Margate
Parish: Margate St John the Baptist
Enum. District: 13
Address: 1 Dane Villa Dane Road Margate
County: Kent
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born
GRAY, Albert Edward Head Married M 42 1869 Window Cleaner Middlesex
GRAY, Mary Elizabeth Wife Married
17 years F 40 1871 Stoke on Trent Staffordshire
GRAY, Ernest William Son M 14 1897 Camberwelll
GRAY, Ellen Rosa Daughter F 12 1899 Herne Hill
GRAY, Florence Elsie Daughter F 8 1903 Margate
GRAY, Alice Dora Daughter F 6 1905 Margate
GRAY, Clara Irene Daughter F 4 1907 Margate
GRAY, Albert Edward Son M 2 1909 Margate

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 22 Jun 2013 04:57

Civil Registration event: Marriage
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Name: GRAY, Albert Edward
Registration district: Lambeth
County: London
Year of registration: 1895
Quarter of registration: Apr-May-Jun
Spouse's last name: Not available before 1912
Volume no: 1D
Page no: 748


SCOTT, Mary Elizabeth

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 04:58

Thanks Mary you proved it for me
Steve

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 22 Jun 2013 05:00

1901 census transcription details for: 204, Mayall Road, Lambeth
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National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG13
Piece: 429
Folio: 153
Page: 37
Reg. District: Lambeth
Sub District: Brixton
Parish: Lambeth
Enum. District: 36
Ecclesiastical District: St Jude East Brixton
City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 204, Mayall Road, Lambeth
County: London
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
GRAY, Albert E Head Married M 32 1869
Bloomsbury, London
GRAY, Mary E Wife Married F 29 1872 Plate Glass Labourer
Stoke on Trent, Staffordshire
GRAY, Mary E F Step Daughter F 5 1896
Camberwell, London
GRAY, Ellen R Daughter F 1 1900
Herne Hill, London
GRAY, William E Son M 3 1898
Camberwell, London

MaryMc

MaryMc Report 22 Jun 2013 05:03

Welcome :)

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 05:22

Their marriage:

Albert Edward Gray
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Age: 26
Spouse Name: Mary Elizabeth Scott
Spouse Age: 23
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 14 Apr 1895
Parish: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Douglas Edward Gray
Register Type: Parish Register

Edward was a labourer of 28 Wakles?? Road, father was bookbinder (deceased)
She was from 14 Cornwall Rd, father a labourer.
Witnesses difficult to make out, look lie H Blood and Mary A Trcayder

Do you want me to PM the marriage cert?

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 05:59

Thanks Flip for the extra info
Steve

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 06:04

Hi Flip not to sure what PM means. The info on Albert Edward is correct but a family member gave me a Barnabas Gray as his father i must look into it.
Steve :-)

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:04

Check your inbox, I've just sent the parish register image.

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:12

PM = private message, which we use to send images or sometimes information of a sensitive nature, which is best not on a thread. Just go to messages, then inbox and you should find my message and the attachment.

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 06:21

Thanks for the extra info I will check
Steve

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 06:29

Hi Flip just looked at the attachment and yes your right, many thanks, just goes to prove, you have to prove everything, a big thank you
Steve ;-)

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:30

He may have been telling lies on his marriage cert - I can't find a death for a douglas e gray/grey from 1865-95. Still trying to find him on census before his marriage.

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:35

I wonder about this one??

Albert E. Gray
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Barnabas Gray
Mother's Name: Mary A. Gray
Gender: Male
Where born: London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Giles in the Fields
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 5 Lumber Court
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration District: St Giles
Sub-registration District: St Giles, North
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 327
Folio: 108
Page Number: 33
Household Members: Name Age
Barnabas Gray 51
Mary A. Gray 40
Henry D. Gray 14
Albert E. Gray 12
Emily J. Gray 15
Helen M. Gray 10

Barnabas is a book binder?? There are also on 1871 census.

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:39

This is Henry D's marriage

Henry Douglas Gray
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867
Age: 25
Spouse Name: Mary Jacobs Taylor
Spouse Age: 24
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Jun 1892
Parish: Lambeth St John the Evangelist
Borough: Lambeth
Father Name: Barnabas Douglas Gray (book binder) <<<<<<<<<
Register Type: Parish Register

So I think we may have the right family, but there has been some confusion over the name.

Stephen

Stephen Report 22 Jun 2013 06:50

Yes I agree think we have the right family thanks for the certificate.
Steve :-)

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:51

Mother Mary A was from Bristol according to 1881 census - this should be their marriage:

Barnabas Douglas Gray
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1862
Registration District: Bristol
Inferred County: Gloucestershire
Volume Number: 6a
Page Number: 123
Records on Page: Name
William Feltham
Barnabas Douglas Gray <<<<<
Mary Ann Owen <<<<<
Mary Anne Owen
Anne Pike

And Barnabas death:

Barnabas Douglas Gray
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Date of Registration: Apr-May-Jun 1886
Age at Death: 56
Registration District: St Giles
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1b
Page: 345

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 06:56

From familysearch, for their fathers names:

Barnabas Douglas Gray
Birth Date: 1830
Birthplace:
Age: 32
Spouse's Name: Mary Ann Owen
Spouse's Birth Date:
Spouse's Birthplace:
Spouse's Age:
Event Date: 26 Jun 1862
Event Place: Temple Church, Bristol, Gloucester, England
Father's Name: Douglas Gray
Mother's Name:
Spouse's Father's Name: Benjamin Owen
Spouse's Mother's Name:
Race:
Marital Status:
Previous Wife's Name:
Spouse's Race:
Spouse's Marital Status:
Spouse's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M17295-3
System Origin: England-EASy
GS Film number: 1596297
Reference ID:

Flip

Flip Report 22 Jun 2013 07:06

I wonder if this is where the confusion over his father's name arose, it looks like he was know by Douglas - and look at the name of the other resident, wonder if that is her father (no relationships are on 1841)

Douglass Gray
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: St Anne Soho
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration District: Strand
Sub-registration District: St Anne Westminster
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 730
Book: 6
Folio: 11
Page Number: 15
Household Members: Name Age
Douglass Gray 34
Mary Gray 33
Douglass Gray 11
Joines Gray 4
Eliza Gray 7
Barnabas Rully 60 <<<<<<<<<
Mary Rully 52
Ellen Covles 56