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Corrinne

Corrinne Report 16 Mar 2011 20:34

I wonder if this is connected from 1911 census

MILITARY ALDERSON THOMAS WILLIAM 1890 21 Overseas Military
I wonder if this is your grandfather

why ? newly weds with their first born were not living together! It is just a thought that maybe Thomas was overseas and t hat is why your grandmother was living with her parents. Just trying to look from a different angle. What do people think? I think this needs further investigation maybe he died overseas.

How sure are you that the 1911 census you have is your grandfather?

Jooleh

Jooleh Report 16 Mar 2011 22:43

Corrinne, that crossed my mind too. I guess we will have to wait for Margaret to give us the address from the marriage cert. If his address is 3 Bowden yard then that clinches it.

What is the birth place of the 21 year old Thomas?

I looked at several WW1 records last week but none really matched the info that Margaret has given.

Julie

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 17 Mar 2011 02:01

I am going potty. What address at 3 Bowden Yard? Which marriage cert do you want to be there?

I feel a bit slow!

Meg

Corrinne

Corrinne Report 17 Mar 2011 05:10

Hi Madmeg, you maybe going potty but I am potty!!!
Hi Jooleh . I am glad that you have wondered about thomas william alderson too.

Ok I tried to think outside the box.However I am not too sure now. Due to there being so many pages please can I ask you magaret to again give the details of thomas william alderson who married sarah jane in 1909.

How old does it state thomas being, also where was he living/address at the time of his marriage and occupation.

Sorry to be nuisance ........and thankyou

jansmith

jansmith Report 17 Mar 2011 10:35

this is the info of the above in 1911
ALDERSON, Thomas William Single ? 21 1890
born Bishop Auckland Durham

Dett 1st Bn Durham L Infantry Neemuch County:
Overseas military

mouseman

mouseman Report 17 Mar 2011 14:26

Hello All


Thomas William Alderson was born 16th. February 1888.
19 Stanley Colliery. Crook. Co.Durham. Parents William and Mary Alderson

Thomas William Alderson and Sarah Jane Branston Married 16/10/1909
Address; 17 West Terrace. Billy Row. Crook. Co Durham.
This is the same address, as in the 1911 census for the Brankston/Branston family I.e Ada May was with her mother Sarah Jane at the home of her grandparents.

The 1911 census shows Thomas William as living/spending the night
At the home of his parents; William And Mary Alderson.
Address 3 Bowden Yard. Willington. Durham.

Thomas was 21 when he married Sarah Jane Branston; 23 when living at 3 Bowden Yard. Willington.

Many thanks
Margaret

mouseman

mouseman Report 17 Mar 2011 14:30

Hello All

Sorry Thomas William Alderson was a miner. A Hewer, as in the 1911 census.

Margaret

Corrinne

Corrinne Report 17 Mar 2011 17:18

Hello Margaret.
Hurray!!!! great to see that you have the right Thomas William Alderson, I was a bit worried that you hadn,t as he is proving to be diffficult to find dead or alive after 1911.
Did you manage to order the death certificate for ada in blackpool?

I will now see if anything new comes to light but it is like looking for a needle in a haystack.

Corrinne

Corrinne Report 17 Mar 2011 17:58

1911 census - household transcription
Address: 3 Bowden Yard Willington Durham
ALDERSON, William Head Married M 46 1865 Coal Miner Hewer New Shildon C Durham
ALDERSON, Mary Wife Married 26 years F 44 1867 Crook Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Mary Jane Daughter Single F 26 1885 General Servant Domestic Crook Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Thomas William Son Married M 23 1888 Coal Miner Hewer Stanley Pit Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Florence Edith Daughter Single F 20 1891 General Servant Domestic Stanley Nr Crook Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Margaret Louisa Daughter Single F 18 1893 General Servant Domestic Brown Park Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Christaine Daughter Single F 14 1897 School Woodifield Crook Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Hilda May Daughter Single F 12 1899 School Woodifield Crook Cf Durham
ALDERSON, Ada Daughter Single F 8 1903 Woodifield Crook Cf Durham VIEW
ALDERSON, John William Grandson M 4 1907 Waterhouses Cf Durham

Margaret I need to ask you
Do you know who are the parents of john william alderson (grandson) in the above census

???Births Mar 1907
ALDERSON John William Gateshead 10a 994A

could he be a son of thomas william Alderson!

Corrinne

Corrinne Report 17 Mar 2011 19:18

I wonder .......who knows
Deaths Dec 1916
Alderson Thomas age 26 Middlesbro 9d 748
Middlesbrough and it is in the county of North Riding of Yorkshire. I think about 30ish miles from durham.

mouseman

mouseman Report 17 Mar 2011 20:43

Hello All

How busy you all are..........

I don't know who the parents of John William Alderson ( Grandson ) are.

Both Certificates are ordered. Barker Wetherby was ordered Tuesday.
Ada May Jones Death Cert' was ordered today. Both by phone.............
so everything crossed. I shall be off site Friday... Manchester calling.. Nana needed .........

Corrinne


The death looks interesting..... Dec. 1916
Sarah Jane Alderson had 2 children, born to Joseph Thurlby before her marriage to him in 1918. Rachel born 1916 and John 1917.

Edit; The age is not correct . Thomas is shown as being 23 in 1911 ????

Thank you all. Can't wait for the certs. every thing crossed.

Margaret

Corrinne

Corrinne Report 17 Mar 2011 21:17

mmmmm I do wonder if John William Alderson is the son of Thomas and Sarah Jane before they married. The more I look at it the more I am convinced it is their son.

Please do not omit the death for Dec 1916 it is only out by 2 years if the informant wasn,t sure of Thomas's details then it may indeed be him.

Anyway have a nice time away, fingers and everything else crossed for the arrival of those certificates I bet you can,t wait.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 18 Mar 2011 16:27

Corinne, why do you think little John William is their son? Isn't he more likely the son of one of the daughters - e.g. Mary Jane. Sarah Jane would have been only 15 in 1907. Mary Jane was not living at home in 1901, so in 1907 she could have been working in Waterhouses.

Margaret, I think you will have to contact the office that now has the records for Lanchester. Kay gave you some details earlier, but according to me this is the current details:

The Register Office, Cockton House, 35 Cockton Hill Road, Bishop Auckland, DL14 6HS.
Tel: 01388 607277

E-mail: bishopaucklandregisteroffice@durham.gov.uk

Tell them you believe the family have the wrong birthdate, that you believe she was born around July 1910 in Lanchester, and give her parents' names. They won't confirm anything definite without you paying the fee, but will usually make sure it is likely the right certificate first.

mouseman

mouseman Report 19 Mar 2011 17:14

Hello ALL

Madmeg you can light those fireworks.......................................
you did get it right................................ Death Certificate;-
first of march 2002 Victoria Hospital. Blackpool.......

Ada Margaret Jones. otherwise Ada May Jones. Maiden Name Alderson.
Date and Place of Birth. 17th. July. 1910 Crook Co. Durham.
Widow of John Arther Jones. Mechanical Engineer. ( Retired )
69 Claremont Court. Blackpool.


I haven't received the Wetherby Barker/Jones re placement certificate. I guess it will be next week........ but Ha..Ho.. who cares.............
I will go and have that cup of tea now. I have only just returned from Manchester. 10 min's ago.

I just can't put into words.... The happiness you have brought into my life.

A Big Thank you to you all, for staying the course, and supporting me.
on my search.

Kindest regards to all of you.
Margaret xx



Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Mar 2011 18:18

Oh, Margaret, I am SOOOOH delighted for you. I really am. I'm shedding little tears as I type this.

So, there's those possible half-siblings I pmd to you a while ago, and a grandson (though he might be John Jones's grandson, not Ada's).

C'mon girls, let's find these people for Margaret. Don't forget to pm anything about living people.

Margaret, you've gotta contact the registrars re Ada's birth cert.

jansmith

jansmith Report 19 Mar 2011 18:58

will start looking ,so pleased for you Margaret .

tempest

tempest Report 19 Mar 2011 19:06

I'm so very pleased for you Margaret.

Well done madmeg (by the way some of us girls are chaps! lol)

According to mouseprice, the address Dara gives as his on the death cert was last sold in December 2001, so he could still be living there, is anyone offering electoral roll searches at the moment?

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Mar 2011 19:21

Sorry Tempest, your board name gives nothing away!

Don't know about electoral roll searches, Wayne Tracey is otherwise occupied. I'll post a thread.

Can't find EDIT the Informant, must be a nickname or short-form of something.

Yep, 192 has him 2002-2007. Other occupants' names mean nothing as yet.

Will PM Margaret.

Madmeg

Madmeg Report 19 Mar 2011 20:04

EDIT - he is a competitive cyclist. He is on Facebook and several google searches, so I'm not really giving away any secrets about him. But I can't find a birth for him. And no marriage between an A****** and a Barker.

mouseman

mouseman Report 19 Mar 2011 20:26

Hello All

Can't see the board very well for tears but thank you all again..............

And to ;- Tempest I always thought you were a fella. xx

Regards
Margaret