Genealogy Chat

Hi Mary from Italy, I've also got Norths connected to the family, but from Lockington in 18th C and Breedon on the Hill, 19th C, they didn't have much imagination when it came to christian names either, Regards, Ralph

*** F.A.O. *** Karen. MARRIAGE. Fiche DE 165 / 9. Second Envelope of Two. All Saints Parish Church. Narborough. Page. No. 2. Entry. No. 4. John McJANNET. Bachelor of this Parish. Mary HUTCHINS. Spinster of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By me :- Wm. Parrs. Rector of Narborough. This Tenth Day of Nov. In the year of our Lord. One Thousand Eight Hundred and One. Both signed by their own Signatures. Wit’s :- Thomas Bingley. Mary Hubbard. MARRIAGE. Fiche No. DE 1653. / 10. Envelope No.1 of Two. All Saints Church. Narborough. Page. 34. Entry. No. 100. Thomas McJANNET. Bachelor of this Parish. Jane. BOTTERIL. Spinster of this Parish. Married in this Church following Banns. By me James. B. Eason. Curate. This Tenth Day of May. In the year of our Lord. One Thousand Eight Hundred and Twenty Six. Thomas signed by his own Signature. Jane by her own Mark = X Wit’s :- Thomas Botteril. By his Mark. = + Sarah Manns. I did search the Parish Registers ( 1765. 1836.) for any sign of any other McJannet’s events But drew a Blank other than the two Marriages above…….Sorry. Better for other Events though Baptisms. :- 27th. Jan. 1805. Jane Dau. Of Edward & Elizabeth Botteril. Lab. Narborough. 12th. April. 1792. Mary. Dau. Of John & Elizabeth Hutchins. Narborough. May. ( ? ? Does off the Page )…..1792. Thomas Son Of Thomas & Elizabeth Botteril. 25th. April. 1802. Thomas Son Of Edward & Elizabeth Botteril. The Baptism Registers of years 1800. ~ 1805. Were spread all over several pages and just occupied the bottom of the pages A right nightmare so unable to find Ann's Baptism…. Just wonder if the McJannet Family came from another village close by ? MIKE.xx *** F.A.O.*** Mary from Italy. I’m still Looking for the Baptism of William Screaton. April Qrt. 1854. Cert No, 7 a. 155. Barrow District. I also kept an eye out for any Norths... We can Eliminate the parishes of Rothley. ( Unless it was a Baptist Church event but need to explore that one. ) Mountsorrel South ( Christ Church also St. Peter’s Church ) Gaddesby. ( James Screaton came from there) Talking of Gaddesby …. Found these Baptisms of Interest :- Fiche No. DE 751. / 4. Envelope 2. of 4. St. Luke’s Church. Gaddesby. 1815. Page. 3. Entry. No. 23. Dec. 10th. Thomas. Son of John & Hannah Screaton. Gadsby Farmer. Entry. No.24. Dec, 10th. JAMES. Son of John & Hannah Screaton. Gadsby. Farmer. Edward. Morgan. Curate. So was James a TWIN ?.....Ummmmm…..:o/ Oh....... I did ask the Head of Archives at Wigston For an explanation on = “ Conducted under Superintendent Registrar’s Certificate..” Which appeared on the Marriage Entry for 1858. William Wood North ~ Mary Screaton. Apparently in those days a member of the Baptist Church Could not sit in to hear the Banns being read in a C o E Church….. So had to get a Registrar to sit in on their behalf. This certificate of Authorization was then presented to the Minster conducting the Service. MIKE.xx

Hi Mike, Sorry you'd didn't manage to find the William Screaton birth in Rothley - what a saga this is turning into! I would have expected the christening to be in Rothley, probably at the Baptist Church, where both William Senior and Mary were baptised. Mary was born in Rothley, and was always living there at census times. Would a baptist minister or CofE vicar agree to baptise an illegitimate child, though? Thanks for James Screaton's birth - that was already on Paul Webber's tree (he has a huge tree full of Screatons). I wouldn't think he was necessarily a twin - I have other families where 3/4 children born in different years have all been christened on the same day. Thanks for the explanation of the Superintendent Registrar’s Certificate.

Greeting’s Again Mary….. You ask = “ Would a baptist minister or CofE vicar agree to baptise an illegitimate child, though? “ Not sure about the Baptist Minster…. I mean if they can’t allow you to hear the Banns !!!!….. But C o E. Do I’ve seen it loads of times on the Parish Registers…… Just thought James & Thomas might be twins ? The Curate has put some dates of births for others on other pages …. You want to see the Registers for Rothley !!!….. Baptizing them at any age.... Best up to now a 22 year old Man….. The Curate must have been on a recruitment drive ….lol :o))) MIKE.xx The search continues…….. Will have to see if there is any Baptist Records held at Wigston next time

That's interesting about the baptisms - I was surprised to find a 1-day old child christened in an Independent Church in Whitby today.

Hi Mike and Mary, James and Thomas Screaton were my 3rd cousins (6 times removed). I don't think that they were twins. Thomas' year of birth is shown as 1813 on the 1861 census, he died in 1874 but I haven't looked for him yet in the other census. Looks like a 'bulk' baptism. Also his siblings were all born 2 years apart ie 1802, 1804, 1806, 1808, 1810, then Thomas 1813 and James 1815. Regards Paul

Nudged for Jayne, who'd like to contact any Witterings from the Leicester area.

Sorry i didnt see Jaynes message but she as been in touch with me and we are connected and i am going to send her info but if there are any other Witterings please get in touch Bev

Evening Mike, Do you have the following deaths please for Countesthorpe Steven North died Countesthorpe after 1795 and his wife Mary North died Countesthorpe after 1795. Many thanks Sue.......

Are you about Mike,?

Greeting's Again Sue.... Sorry just got in from my Scout Camp Warden Duties.... There you Go..... Countesthorpe Burials Names. / Dates. / Ages. / Notes.:- NORTH * MARY * 5 MAY 1814 61 WIFE OF STEPHEN NORTH WILLIAM STEPHENS 13 JUN 1831 12 NORTH * STEPHEN * 10 FEB 1840 85 NORTH THOMAS 25 JAN 1857 63 NORTH MARY 24 JUN 1878 85 NORTH ZILLAH 10 SEP 1884 44 NORTH THOMAS 16 JUN 1894 74 MIKE. xx .

Thankyou mike, where do you get the info from do you have a disc of buriels for certain areas? Sue

Greeting's Sue... In a word......Yes Leicestershire & Rutland Burials 1813. ~ 1891. MIKE.xx

Thanks Mike. I have a marriage for Elizabeth Hackett to William Page Willoughby Waterless 7th Nov 1814. Would this year say who the fathers were please? Sue

Greeting's again Sue..... Ummm ? ...I doubt it .... But there again if Elizabeth's Father was a Witness then your in luck. I've had a look on several on my disks but can only confirm that the Marriage took place....7th. Nov. 1814. Assuming Elizabeth was about 20 when married we go back 20 odd years ......1794. I did spot a John Hackett's Baptism in Willoughby Waterless 18th Sept. 1791. Father = William Mother = Catherina. But having said all that I can have a look for you next time I'm at Wigston ... MIKE. xx

Morning Mike, I have had a look in IGI there is a Elizabeth Hackett bap 1793 Whetstone is that near Willoughby her parents were John and Elizabeth.If there isn't a Elizabeth Hackett bn Willoughby about that time can I assume that this one is her? Sue.....

Greeting's Again Sue.... Whetstone ~ Willoughby Waterless. = 3.9.. Miles. I'll have a look at BOTH events and get back to you... We might have guessed it ..... with your Tree.... If in doubt look at Whetstone Parish....lol :o))) MIKE.xx

Mike Thankyou... Sue..............

Hi Mike, Thank you for your help re: Roger Newton, (born approx 1944) 2,Hamilton Street Leicester, (His parnets ran a wet fish shop there) Unfortunately Ray is not his brother. Can you help any further? I am at a loss as to how I might find him?? Regards Kay

Greetings again Mike Re my earlier PM, June Journal arrived this am. Can you please advise what 'St Margarets with Bishops Fee' means, as seen on Leicester 1841 Census ?. Regards Jon