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And here's the same family in 1851

Name: Ellen Taylor
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Thomas
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Billinge, Lancashire, England
Civil parish: Parr
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street Address: Islands Brow ?? hard to read.
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability: View image
Registration district: Prescot
Sub-registration district: St Helens
ED, institution, or vessel: 3b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 41
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Taylor 44.....b1807 Winstinly, Lancashire....Occupation Labourer (this has been dittoed for everyone?)
Elizabeth Taylor 44....b1807 Windle, Lancashire
Mary Taylor 14........ b1837 Billinge, Lancashire
Ellen Taylor 13....... b1838 Billinge, Lancashire
Robert Taylor 6 .......b1845 Billinge, Lancashire
Thos Taylor 10 .......b1841 Billinge, Lancashire
Sarah Taylor 2 ........b1849 Billinge, Lancashire

Thanks. I will come back to this Friday when I have a day off.

strong possibility this is Ellen 1841 s brother Robert

1881 census - household transcription
Person: TAYLOR, Robert
Address: 61, George St, Hindley
TAYLOR, Robert Head Married M 37 1844 Coal Miner
Billinge
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Charlotte Wife Married F 34 1847
Hindley
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Eliza Ann Daughter Single F 15 1866 Cotton Mill Operative
Hindley
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Esther Daughter Single F 12 1869 Scholar
Hindley
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Mary Daughter Single F 6 1875 Scholar
Parr
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Robert Son Single M 3 1878 Scholar
Parr
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Sarah Daughter Single F 1 1880
Parr
Lancashire

Seen him in several censuses


I have started to add to Susan's tree so it is becoming easier to see.

Well done LancashireAnn

1871 census - household transcription
Person: TAYLOR, Robert
Address: Hollin Hey, Ashton In Makerfield

TAYLOR, Robert Head M 27 1844 Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Charlotte Wife F 24 1847 Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Ann Daughter F 5 1866 Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Esther Daughter F 3 1868 Lancashire VIEW
ASHALL, Jane Lodger F 13 1858 Lancashire

1891 census - household transcription
Person: TAYLOR, Robert
Address: 41, Argyle Street, Hindley

TAYLOR, Robert Head Married M 48 1843 Coal Miner
Billinge
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Charlott Wife Married F 44 1847
St Helens
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Robert J Son Single M 15 1876 Drawer In Coal Mine
St Helens
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, John W Son Single M 9 1882 Scholar
Hindley
Lancashire VIEW
TAYLOR, Jane Daughter Single F 7 1884 Scholar
Hindley
Lancashire

What do you think of this one Lancashire Ann as I am not very familiar with the area
This is LK again.


Marriage: 14 Oct 1872 St James, Haydock, Lancashire, England
John Pimblett - 18 Collier Bachelor of Haydock
Sarah Taylor - 19 Spinster of Haydock
Groom's Father: Robert Pimblett, Collier
Bride's Father: Thomas Taylor, Collier
Witness: John Blackey; Mary Harrison
Married by Banns by: W H Nassan Brennan - Curate
Register: Marriages 1867 - 1892, Page 50, Entry 100
Source: LDS Film 1885723

Haydock is only about 3miles out of St Helens and abt half way between Ashton in Makerfield & Newton in Makerfield. Possibly more importantly within 3 miles are Billinge, Parr & Sutton.

However this Sarah says she is age 19 on marriage so would have needed parental consent. Ellen (1839) sister Sarah was born 1848/49 ie would have been over 21. This makes me think not the same one as it does not seem probable that age would be declared under 21 if not - other way round yes.

incidentally Stevie

"Here's the same family in the 1861 census. Thomas, Robert & Sarah are probably Ellens brothers & sister;"

by that I assume you mean Ellen b 1839 - mother of the rest - something that could be checked fairly easily next time i look at parish records