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Third name maybe Nelson
but check this on 1911

HOUSEHOLD ATKINSON GERTRUDE F 1883 28 Sedgefield Durham

HOUSEHOLD ATKINSON CHARLES S M 1909 2 Sedgefield Durham

HOUSEHOLD ATKINSON WILLIAM F M 1884 27 Sedgefield Durham

those are all that come up in the household.
Do you have credits to look at the image sean??
as the s after charles may well be not what is on the original.

or even the transcript for where gertrude was born?
viv

2 [plain,no middle name]Gertrude mace births
one staffs one warwickshire
to fit 1911 birth

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
MACE Gertrude Stoke T. 6b 244 Scan available - click to view
Births Sep 1884 (>99%)
Mace Gertrude Shipston 6d 651

i cant eiter unless it was his full first name if you saw the document you would laugh dont know how they got away with it in them days winnie charles wife wrote all over it atkinson facts i have and you all prob fed up with this one but i am grateful
charles edward nelson then in brackets bragey or somthing cant read it.
father william francis in brackets bragey cant read it
mother gertrude in brackets bragey cant read it
cant understand why atkinson is wrote on it only the story he told he ran away and john atkinson and his family took him in
this cert says he applied for it to work when he was 14 yrs to work at the trimdom collery think charles storys that he told us were prob porkeys bits were true bits wasent he was hidding something
dont give up on this one yet

Hmm well william F atkinson is born same place as william F boagey

they have been married 3 years,which is about right for the frank atkinson / gertrude mace marriage.
skullduggery or somesuch going on here I think.

ATKINSON, WILLIAM F HEAD MARRIED M 27 MINER HEWER HEWER DURHAM HARTLEPOOL
ATKINSON, GERTRUDE WIFE MARRIED 3 F 28 NORFOLK GREAT YARMOUTH
ATKINSON, CHARLES S SON SINGLE M 2 DURHAM DARLINGTON

well heres a gertrude mace birth in norfolk!!

Births Dec 1884 (>99%)
Mace Gertrude Lilly Norwich 4b 145

can you read what william francis did for a job on the birth cert sean?

Maybe he took on the Atkinson name after he left home to live with John Atkinson if he hated his father for beating him!!

Viv...Your Fantastic..

Misty x

sorry we cant read his occupation

Well I would send for this cert using mothers name gertrude as a checking ref,so you only lose half your money if it hasnt got that name on it.
Because if it your charles then you will be able to read it properly.

Births Dec 1908 (>99%)

Boagey Charles Edward N Durham 10a 418

got to go to bed now ,will check back in the morning for the occupation of
william francis the father if you can read it.

edit,,just seen you cant read it,Get that cert,I will eat my hat if it is not the same one as you cant read properly!!

then come back on this thread so misty and I can help out more if poss,but let us know if you get it please.
viv

thanx all never stoped up so late have another look tom not going to give up yet xxxx

With mother and Stepfather?

1901 England Census about William Frank Boagy
Name: William Frank Boagy
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John...1847
Mother's Name: Esther....1865
Gender: Male
Where born: Hartlepool, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Byers Green
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green St Peter
Town: Byers Green
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:....... Coal Miners Putter ?
Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland

Household Members:
Name Age
John Atkinson 54......Stone Man (Below)?
Esther Atkinson 36
Margaret Atkinson 28
John Atkinson 21
Francis Atkinson 19
William Atkinson 16
William Frank Boagy 16
Elizabeth Ann Atkinson 12
Mary Ann Atkinson 10
Esther Atkinson 2
Jane Browell Atkinson 3 Mo

Misty x

Last words
I can not see a birth for lou or lucy atkinson/boagey/mace
but she may have had a different father /surname
so without a birth year for her it is not really possible to pin point her
sorry
goodnight
viv

Night Viv and Sean

Misty x

Bingo Misty...whoopee!

So it was charles dad who ran away not charls by the looks of it
family stories do change in the telling
You got the link I reckon.
back tomorrow
really going now

get that cert Sean.please please please
viv

Just had to take one more look....

Mother and Stepfather Marriage

Dec 1888
ATKINSON John Auckland 10a 296
BOAGEY Esther Auckland 10a 296

Misty x

william francis/frank boagey/atkinson etc 1891,but esther is now Mary,and still born in hartlepool.
The strange thing is that on the image william and frank are down as twins,what is being hidden here? as we know they are not,and both have the same first name anyway.
This is definatley the same family as 1901 though.

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1891 England Census
about Frank Atkinson
Name: Frank Atkinson
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Mary
Gender: Male
Where born: Byers Green, Durham, England

Civil Parish: Byers Green
Ecclesiastical parish: Byers Green
Town: Byers Green
County/Island: Durham
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

View Image

Registration district: Auckland
Sub registration district: Bishop Auckland
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Atkinson 44
Mary Atkinson 30
Richard Atkinson 19
Margaret Atkinson 18
John Atkinson 11
William Atkinson 7
Frank Atkinson 7
Frances Atkinson 9
Elizabeth A Atkinson 3
Mary A Atkinson 11/12

oooooh well done you, Viv. I did look for the 1891 one last night but had to give up as I couldnt keep my eye's open!!

Looking at both year's, I think maybe John Atkinson had children when he and Esther (Mary) got together and his youngest was called William also...maybe that's why William Francis became Frank.....What a muddle that would be, having two William Atkinsons in the same house!!

Gosh, didnt they like the name Francis/ Frances....

Misty x

They most certainly did Misty.
What bothers me is the big gap between kids on the 1901,did some die after birth maybe?
I have checked and rechecked for more marriages on esther/mary and john Atkinson and just yours shows.
But for william francis father with esther ,nothing,only one hunter boagey/esther marriage and they go through to 1901.
And where did janes middle name of browell come from?
l am also unable to see a birth of mary esther/esther boagey if she was unmarried when wiliam francis was born.

But one thing I do know that if Boagey had been my surname I wouldnt have wanted to use it!!!
Maybe that is why charles wife wrote all over his birth cert,can you imagine,
hello mrs boagey,and how are your little monsters today?
and the kids at school would have had a dreadful time about other things,well you know what kids are like!
still giggling to myself here,sorry Sean.
viv

hi all just had some info from a very kind gentlman
marrage oct-dec 1888 john and esther but also a marrage
jan-mar 1883 hunter boagley to a esther boagley formaly bayes
mother coming later going to really study birth cert .
going back to the story i wonder when charles told us he went to live with a friend john atkinson it was really his step brother
cant get out of my head about lucy or lou as he called her no record at all on herxx

Sean I saw that info on Ancestry( there is a tree on there) but it does not fit, as Hunter and Esther( Bayes) were still married in 1901....so I dont believe it is the same people...Sorry...might be wrong, will go have another look.

Misty x